*Official* Match 11 - India v England

[Woodster]

Originally Posted by Turbinator

Genuine at this post. Sorry Teja.

But I can't tell if this post is in jest, or you're being serious. Ridiculous really to even think England stand a chance, this isn't test cricket.

I would suggest it's ridiculous to think they don't have a chance.

India will rightly start as favourites, but we have the players capable of ensuring this is very competitive.

[Woodster]

Originally Posted by vicleggie

i just dont think they know how to bowl in these conditions. And anderson has looked poor for the last few odi's he has played. And also judging on that 5-0 drubbing we gave you recently when you were here. And your 6-1 loss to aus (recent form).

In terms of the score difference, it represents the difference between india's poor and good days. when india is focussed, tthey dont just post a good total, they go nuts. I think they'll be focussed in thsi match

This is a skilful group of bowlers who did not do thereselves justice against Holland. They are much improved from 2008, and tbf most of them missed the Australia ODI series, that were played in totally different conditions to what will be in store tomorrow.

[Turbinator]

Originally Posted by Woodster

I would suggest it's ridiculous to think they don't have a chance.

India will rightly start as favourites, but we have the players capable of ensuring this is very competitive.

You're right, I did come off as a bit condescending.

But I'll be honest, I just don't see England being competitive against this Indian side in home conditions. And nor do I like faking it either, I can't be diplomatic and force myself to believe that England will put up a competitive effort. It's just hard for me to fathom.

Imo England lacks big hitters, and I'm expecting the spinners to bog down England's batsmen in the middle overs.

[Woodster]

Originally Posted by Turbinator

You're right, I did come off as a bit condescending.

But I'll be honest, I just don't see England being competitive against this Indian side in home conditions. And nor do I like faking it either, I can't be diplomatic and force myself to believe that England will put up a competitive effort. It's just hard for me to fathom.

Imo England lacks big hitters, and I'm expecting the spinners to bog down England's batsmen in the middle overs.

that's fine mate. I completely understand where you're coming from with regards our lack of boundary hitters, perhaps in the lower middle order. Also our troubles against slow bowlers in these conditions are indeed a worry. If you don't think we can compete with India, that's fair enough, but personally reckon we have more than a punchers chance.

I do see that as a crucial outcome for the game - the way we play the slow bowlers, hope we're proactive and positive and don't just sit in and try and tick it over because we don't do it effectively enough. Let's take it to them and try and upset their rhythm and their plans. Not easy though for sure.

Also with the ball, we bowled a number of short balls and back of a length deliveries against Holland, when perhaps we should have bowled more balls at the stumps. Tomorrow I reckon the likes of Sehwag will get peppered with shortish stuff, especially from Broad.

[cricpk]

I voted for India but you can't negate the possibility of an English victory as well. Overall for me 70-30 in India's favour.

[Prince EWS]

Originally Posted by vcs

Logically, and going by England's recent history in India, this seems fair enough. But, it's the World Cup, so anything can happen.

Waterboy has a magnificent record against England in all formats, seems to love playing them. Hope he comes to the party.

Can't wait to see him bowl to Pietersen.

[Dhoni_fan]

Hi Guys

I am new here as you can tell :P

seems like a great forum so wanted to join you, I was actually born and raised in England to an Indian father and a West Indian mother, but have always been a loyal Indian fan and will remain loyal tomorrow.

I am expecting a very tough match though, tougher than a lot of people are predicting, England have proven themselves to be big match players, look at the Ashes and the T20 world cup.

IMHO playing Yardy would be a big mistake I am far more concerned about Bopara down the order.

I am hoping that we drop Sreesanth and play Ashwin who was superb for CSK in the IPL.

[Turbinator]

Originally Posted by Woodster

that's fine mate. I completely understand where you're coming from with regards our lack of boundary hitters, perhaps in the lower middle order. Also our troubles against slow bowlers in these conditions are indeed a worry. If you don't think we can compete with India, that's fair enough, but personally reckon we have more than a punchers chance.

I do see that as a crucial outcome for the game - the way we play the slow bowlers, hope we're proactive and positive and don't just sit in and try and tick it over because we don't do it effectively enough. Let's take it to them and try and upset their rhythm and their plans. Not easy though for sure.

Also with the ball, we bowled a number of short balls and back of a length deliveries against Holland, when perhaps we should have bowled more balls at the stumps. Tomorrow I reckon the likes of Sehwag will get peppered with shortish stuff, especially from Broad.

Good analysis, I agree with you for the most part. Except I don't see the strategy of bowling short to Indian batsmen, on these pitches, being nearly as effective. Which is one of the reasons why Raina has been so successful in home conditions, but rubbish away.

Gambhir to score big tomorrow, I feel.

Originally Posted by Dhoni_fan

Hi Guys

I am new here as you can tell :P

seems like a great forum so wanted to join you, I was actually born and raised in England to an Indian father and a West Indian mother, but have always been a loyal Indian fan and will remain loyal tomorrow.

Not only did you pick the right team to support, but also the right forum. Welcome

[Dhoni_fan]

Originally Posted by Turbinator

Good analysis, I agree with you for the most part. Except I don't see the strategy of bowling short to Indian batsmen, on these pitches, being nearly as effective. Which is one of the reasons why Raina has been so successful in home conditions, but rubbish away.

Gambhir to score big tomorrow, I feel.



Not only did you pick the right team to support, but also the right forum. Welcome

Thank you so much for the wonderful welcome! great to be here!

How do you see the match going, am actually pretty confident, just do not want us to be too complacent, but I do think it is all about us. as long as we play to our best we will win.

Tommorrow I am playing cricket in the nets with a few English friends and supporters then going to watch the game atmosphere should be great, hopefully I can spoil their party

[Woodster]

Originally Posted by Turbinator

Good analysis, I agree with you for the most part. Except I don't see the strategy of bowling short to Indian batsmen, on these pitches, being nearly as effective. Which is one of the reasons why Raina has been so successful in home conditions, but rubbish away.

Gambhir to score big tomorrow, I feel.

Bangalore does possess enough pace and bounce to employ such a tactic though, if reports on the pitch's appearance are correct. There has been some inclement weather around which may give it a bit more spice.

[kingkallis]

Its gonna be a gem of a game.

Go India Go

[Dhoni_fan]

Originally Posted by Turbinator

Good analysis, I agree with you for the most part. Except I don't see the strategy of bowling short to Indian batsmen, on these pitches, being nearly as effective. Which is one of the reasons why Raina has been so successful in home conditions, but rubbish away.

Gambhir to score big tomorrow, I feel.



Not only did you pick the right team to support, but also the right forum. Welcome

Btw is it too late to join up INDIAS team with you guys for the forum world cup? :P

[Prince EWS]

Originally Posted by Woodster

:Also with the ball, we bowled a number of short balls and back of a length deliveries against Holland, when perhaps we should have bowled more balls at the stumps. Tomorrow I reckon the likes of Sehwag will get peppered with shortish stuff, especially from Broad.

And you got smashed. Learn your lesson IMO.

[Woodster]

Originally Posted by Dhoni_fan

Hi Guys

I am new here as you can tell :P

seems like a great forum so wanted to join you, I was actually born and raised in England to an Indian father and a West Indian mother, but have always been a loyal Indian fan and will remain loyal tomorrow.

I am expecting a very tough match though, tougher than a lot of people are predicting, England have proven themselves to be big match players, look at the Ashes and the T20 world cup.

IMHO playing Yardy would be a big mistake I am far more concerned about Bopara down the order.

I am hoping that we drop Sreesanth and play Ashwin who was superb for CSK in the IPL.

Welcome to the forum mate, and I hope you are right and you do get a tough match tomorrow!

I agree with you on the Yardy front, I am hoping Bopara is selected, his batting could be far more important and don't envisage the Indian batsmen having too many issues with Yardy's darts.

Ashwin in for Sreesanth would be a good move for India also, but they may opt for Chawla as a bowler that turns it the opposite way to Harbhajan.

[Prince EWS]

Originally Posted by Dhoni_fan

Btw is it too late to join up INDIAS team with you guys for the forum world cup? :P

You can still join. You'll be 12th man until someone fails but you'd be put in the squad.