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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178 View Post
    Colly clearly 5th bowler.
    Evidently.

    Still, Ravi 0-20 off 3 is worrying. Not that we really needed him to take wickets, but that it might mean the selectors leave him out.
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    To be fair, he's always been a better bowler than Ravi (and a better batsman) - and I've been calling for this team shape for a while now (even with Morgan playing) - Ravi's definitely only a 6th bowler quality, marginally better than Trott, but not that good really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    Evidently.

    Still, Ravi 0-20 off 3 is worrying. Not that we really needed him to take wickets, but that it might mean the selectors leave him out.
    Tbf to Ravi he can't have bowled for a fair while. Broad wraps it up with another 5fer, appears to be bowling very well..

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    How about Swann in for Bopara, leaving Prior 6, Yardy 7, Bres 8, Broad 9, Swann 10, Jim 11?

    I rather think we're asking for trouble with one spinner in India/Bdesh, particularly as much of our (relative) OD/T20 success has come with Yardy & Swann partnering each other in the middle overs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Pickup View Post
    How about Swann in for Bopara, leaving Prior 6, Yardy 7, Bres 8, Broad 9, Swann 10, Jim 11?

    I rather think we're asking for trouble with one spinner in India/Bdesh, particularly as much of our (relative) OD/T20 success has come with Yardy & Swann partnering each other in the middle overs.
    Yardy's not so good in the 50 over stuff to be honest, would almost prefer some KP (or Colly's off cutters)

    Had Morgan been fit I was almost thinking to move Prior to 5, Morgan 6 and Colly 7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacknife View Post
    Tbf to Ravi he can't have bowled for a fair while.
    He was bowling really well in South Africa this year. Not saying he's a world beater but it's something.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Pickup View Post
    How about Swann in for Bopara, leaving Prior 6, Yardy 7, Bres 8, Broad 9, Swann 10, Jim 11?

    I rather think we're asking for trouble with one spinner in India/Bdesh, particularly as much of our (relative) OD/T20 success has come with Yardy & Swann partnering each other in the middle overs.
    In T20s, yes, where he can get through his alloted overs in one go. But Yardy has never really been much of a success in ODIs, where batsmen tend to get the better of him after a while. I think our batting needs re-inforcement more than the bowling does.

    I'd hesitate to call Yardy a spinner anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    He was bowling really well in South Africa this year. Not saying he's a world beater but it's something.
    He was picking up wickets, yes, but that ER is terrible, even more so when you consider in one match he conceded 11 runs off 6 overs (means for 8 of the 9 games he was going at over 7).

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    I think pakistan missed the point of the final warm up game, the way they maneuvered the complete batting order looked as if they thought winning the game against bangladesh was enough. They should have left the experiment part in the first game and played the final batting order in this game, specially if they were looking to chase the target. Anyway i am happy that younis and misbah seem to be back in form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Pickup View Post
    How about Swann in for Bopara, leaving Prior 6, Yardy 7, Bres 8, Broad 9, Swann 10, Jim 11?

    I rather think we're asking for trouble with one spinner in India/Bdesh, particularly as much of our (relative) OD/T20 success has come with Yardy & Swann partnering each other in the middle overs.
    I like that team. Plenty of batting and Colly and Yardy to make up the 5th bowler is good enough.

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    Thing is, Bopara >>>> Yardy as a batsman, and probably isn't that much worse a bowler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178 View Post
    Thing is, Bopara >>>> Yardy as a batsman, and probably isn't that much worse a bowler.
    That's my thinking, he'll only be used as the 6th bowler anyway, with Jimmy, Broad, Swanny, Bresnan and Colly. I just think he could score us more runs than Yardy, more quickly and wouldn't loose too much in the bowling, he might be a bit more expensive, but I reckon he'd get more wickets.

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    For me, our bowling is much better than our batting right now, so I'd rather have the batting allrounder in Bopara than the bowling allrounder in Yardy. I wouldn't mind too much either way but that's the side i'd go for right now.

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