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    England Provisional and final World Cup Squads

    Squad: Andrew Strauss (Middlesex, captain), James Adams (Hampshire), James Anderson (Lancashire), Ian Bell (Warwickshire), Ravi Bopara (Essex), Tim Bresnan (Yorkshire), Stuart Broad (Nottinghamshire), Paul Collingwood (Durham), Alastair Cook (Essex), Steven Davies (Surrey), Jade Dernbach (Surrey), Steven Finn (Middlesex), James Hildreth (Somerset), Craig Kieswetter (Somerset), Michael Lumb (Hampshire), Eoin Morgan (Middlesex), Samit Patel (Nottinghamshire), Kevin Pietersen (Surrey), Liam Plunkett (Durham), Matt Prior (Sussex), Adil Rashid (Yorkshire), Ajmal Shahzad (Yorkshire), Darren Stevens (Kent), Graeme Swann (Nottinghamshire), James Tredwell (Kent), Chris Tremlett (Surrey), Jonathan Trott (Warwickshire), Chris Woakes (Warwickshire), Luke Wright (Sussex), Michael Yardy (Sussex).

    Few talking points with the main one being the inclusion of Samit Patel. Seems to suggest to me that if he can lose some weight before the start of the World Cup then he's their man to play in the second spinner role behind Swann. Or at the very least be in the squad.

    Predictions :
    Steve Davies
    Andrew Strauss
    Jonathan Trott
    Kevin Pietersen
    Paul Collingwood
    Eoin Morgan
    Michael Yardy
    Tim Bresnan
    Graeme Swann
    Stuart Broad
    James Anderson

    Ravi Bopara
    Craig Kieswetter
    Samit Patel/Adil Rashid
    ????

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    Reckon Shahzad will take that last spot. Wright could be there ahead of Bopara, or maybe even in that spot you've left for Patel/Rashid.
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    Steve Davies
    Andrew Strauss
    Jonathan Trott
    Kevin Pietersen
    Paul Collingwood
    Eoin Morgan
    Michael Yardy
    Tim Bresnan
    Graeme Swann
    Stuart Broad
    James Anderson

    Ravi Bopara
    Samit Patel
    Ajmal Shahzad
    Craig Kieswetter

    That'd be the side I see us going with. The only possible change I see would be Fats Patel not passing the fitness test and being replaced by Adil Rashid or maybe James Tredwell, though I'd go with Rashid.
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    Yeah, originally I had Wright in the last spot but thought both he and Bopara would be overkill.
    I love Wright but I hope we choose Bopara over him, better finisher and is not much worse with the ball. While I might back Wright to keep it a touch tighter, he can get through some good death overs, I reckon Bopara is more likely to pick up a wicket or 3.

    I think the selectors will want a backup to Swann/Yardy. Swann's not going to be their for the start of the World Cup so it'll be interesting. But if Yardy's bowling goes the distance I think they'll want to replace him with a like for like. Same goes for if Swann breaks down, Yardy as your only "spinner" in a subcontinental World Cup is asking for trouble.

    Not sure if we need Shahzad in that last spot. Let's say one of Jimmeh/Broad/Bresnan break down, you've still got 30 banker overs from 2 of those + Swann. That means you need to get 20 from Yardy, Bopara, Collingwood, Trott. Could be seen as a bit risky, but the option is definitely there.
    Big part in that decision will be Broad's fitness leading up to the tournament.


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    Can't see Luke Wright not being in the squad.

    Why is Swann missing the start?

    Can we get a subforum? Threads starting to pop up quite a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    Reckon Shahzad will take that last spot. Wright could be there ahead of Bopara, or maybe even in that spot you've left for Patel/Rashid.
    Would agree if it wasn't in the sub-continent, but we really need the spin options. Really need Broad to be fit too, key player in ODI's..
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero View Post
    Can't see Luke Wright not being in the squad.

    Why is Swann missing the start?

    Can we get a subforum? Threads starting to pop up quite a bit.
    Well it'll be one of him and Bopara. Tough call.

    And birth of his kid IIRC.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cri...-baby-run.html
    Paul Collingwood and Graeme Swann - England's second Test match-winner - have been given permission to miss the start of the quest to win the World Cup, which follows hard on the heels of this Ashes tour.
    Both players' wives are expecting babies in the middle of February and they have been told by the management they can stay at home until after the births, even if it means missing warm-up games against Canada and Pakistan in Dhaka on February 16 and 18.

    England's first World Cup game is against Holland in Nagpur on February 22, by which time both are expected to be back with England.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grecian View Post
    Would agree if it wasn't in the sub-continent, but we really need the spin options. Really need Broad to be fit too, key player in ODI's..
    No mention of Hildreth? Can tell you're ill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcuss View Post
    No mention of Hildreth? Can tell you're ill.
    I know, but I've giving up on the English selectors, still another Jamie from the westcountry is doing okay today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grecian View Post
    I know, but I've giving up on the English selectors, still another Jamie from the westcountry is doing okay today.
    Didn't realise Curo was still playing tbh - shame he's not a few inches taller

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    Surprised Ian Bell has been left out of people's XV, he's the next batsman in.

    Why the sleectors refuse to let go of Wright I have no idea.

    I'd have thought James Taylor would be included, seeing as barely-finge players Stevens, Adams, Dernbach etc. are there.

    Samit Patel would be a major gamble to me.

    My squad:
    Strauss, Davies, Trott, KP, Bell, Morgan, Bopara, Keiswetter, Yardy, Swann, Broad, Shahzad, Woakes, Tremlett, Anderson

    But the selectors will include Wright and Bresnan ahead of Woakes and Tremlett.
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    Only 7 born Saffies in the squad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    Surprised Ian Bell has been left out of people's XV, he's the next batsman in.

    Why the sleectors refuse to let go of Wright I have no idea.

    I'd have thought James Taylor would be included, seeing as barely-finge players Stevens, Adams, Dernbach etc. are there.

    Samit Patel would be a major gamble to me.

    My squad:
    Strauss, Davies, Trott, KP, Bell, Morgan, Bopara, Keiswetter, Yardy, Swann, Broad, Shahzad, Woakes, Tremlett, Anderson

    But the selectors will include Wright and Bresnan ahead of Woakes and Tremlett.
    Bell played towards the end of the summer largely due to the fact we dropped Pietersen. Who would you suggest makes way for KP in the team other than Bell?
    I understand that he might deserve a place in the squad, as he was in crash hot form last year, but I don't really see the need for a specialist batsman in the squad, especially when you can basically pick Bopara as one with his bowling as an added bonus.

    Why would Patel be a gamble? Did well enough in his ODI outings to date. Useful batsman and a useful spinner. Represents far less of a gamble than Tremlett in the LO format.

    Agree about Taylor, along with others like Alex Hales perhaps. Not sure what form he was in this season mind. But at the end of the day there are much larger questions over our allrounders and the makeup of our bowling attack than our top 6. Darren Stevens is more likely to displace Luke Wright than Taylor is to leapfrog any of our batsmen IMO.

    Seems as though Hales was quite average, a shame. IIRC he got off to a really good start in List A cricket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    Surprised Ian Bell has been left out of people's XV, he's the next batsman in.

    Why the sleectors refuse to let go of Wright I have no idea.

    I'd have thought James Taylor would be included, seeing as barely-finge players Stevens, Adams, Dernbach etc. are there.

    Samit Patel would be a major gamble to me.

    My squad:
    Strauss, Davies, Trott, KP, Bell, Morgan, Bopara, Keiswetter, Yardy, Swann, Broad, Shahzad, Woakes, Tremlett, Anderson

    But the selectors will include Wright and Bresnan ahead of Woakes and Tremlett.
    Indeed. Wave of the future, that boy.

    No disrespect to Stevens, who had a v good 2010, but he's a thirty something journeyman whose medium pace will be slaughtered at the highest level.

    Don't share your enthusiasm for Woakes tho. Needs to add a couple of yards before he steps up.
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    If I were picking the 15 from that (assuming all fit):

    Strauss
    Davies
    Bell
    Trott
    Pietersen
    Collingwood
    Morgan
    Patel
    Swann
    Yardy
    Anderson
    Broad
    Bresnan
    Wright
    Tremlett
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