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    Surely Christian should get a look in in current form, might be more of a chance in the T20's though

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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonPunk View Post
    Bracken's been injured and wouldn't even crack the current NSW team tbh.
    Pretty hard team to break into at the moment just quietly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
    Surely Christian should get a look in in current form, might be more of a chance in the T20's though
    IMO assuming they keep opening with Watson/Haddin (which does work, so fair enough I guess) then Christian is probably in a straight shoot-out with Smith and to a lesser extent Hopes (who seems to have fallen out of favour) for that lower order blaster slash 5th/6th bowling option role. Assuming he keeps up his current form he's in with a real shout - Smith you'd have to say has the inside running though
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    I'd say they would fit a different niche, and would get selected based on conditions, with Smith the extra spin option, and Christian some seam up. Hopes probably won't get another look in. Christian and Smith are the future. Sadly for Hopes, he probably exceeded expectations. Those 2 could do well to see how he filled a role with the ball in One Dayers and bowled rather economically


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    He probably didn't "do the trick" with the bat though, the other two are IMO definitely superior with the bat. You're correct but in a very general sense they have a similar job.

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    He didn't get a lot of opportunity though, apart from the odd innings at the top where he didn't do too bad. He looks a gun at state level at times strangely enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
    I'd say they would fit a different niche, and would get selected based on conditions, with Smith the extra spin option, and Christian some seam up. Hopes probably won't get another look in. Christian and Smith are the future. Sadly for Hopes, he probably exceeded expectations. Those 2 could do well to see how he filled a role with the ball in One Dayers and bowled rather economically
    Hopes was actually a decent performer for Australia tbh. He just isn't a player that fills you with confidence when you see his name in the side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike5181 View Post
    Hopes was actually a decent performer for Australia tbh. He just isn't a player that fills you with confidence when you see his name in the side.
    Ironically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vcs View Post
    Ironically.
    "Hopes"

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    I see them doing quite well in this World Cup.

    1. Shane Watson
    2. Brad Haddin
    3. Ricky Ponting
    4. Michael Hussey
    5. Michael Clarke
    6. Cameron White
    7. Callum Ferguson
    8. Mitchell Johnson
    9. Brett Lee
    10. Nathan Hauritz
    11. Shaun Tait

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    Batting Ferguson at 7 makes no sense to me when you can have Smith or Christian there who are better hitters (with Christian being a better limited overs batsman full stop) and add another option to the bowling attack.

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    I started to really like Hopes after a while. Hated the amount of opportunities he had to open though as he wasn't very good at it. Haddin was always the obvious option there. Tbf Hopes' bowling peaked about 2 years ago. I don't know if the stats show that but for about a year he could almost play as a genuine bowler. He hit the bat harder and moved the ball off the pitch much more often. He's lost all semblance of that form though and while at the time they discarded him I thought it was harsh and a bit stupid so close to a world cup; I think they made the right call. His bowling will be fodder in India and he's just a bit too stodgy for small ground, slow pitch, facing slow bowling stuff.

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    1. Watson
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    3. Ponting
    4. Clarke
    5. White
    6. Hussey
    7. Dussey
    8. Hauritz
    9. Johnson
    10. Harris
    11. Tait

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julian87 View Post
    I started to really like Hopes after a while. Hated the amount of opportunities he had to open though as he wasn't very good at it. Haddin was always the obvious option there. Tbf Hopes' bowling peaked about 2 years ago. I don't know if the stats show that but for about a year he could almost play as a genuine bowler. He hit the bat harder and moved the ball off the pitch much more often. He's lost all semblance of that form though and while at the time they discarded him I thought it was harsh and a bit stupid so close to a world cup; I think they made the right call. His bowling will be fodder in India and he's just a bit too stodgy for small ground, slow pitch, facing slow bowling stuff.
    2008-9 he was a quality one-day bowler, kept it tight during the middle overs and took important wickets with regularity. You just feel though, since Watson has come back and not been injured, that that side of his game has been superseded somewhat.

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    Ryan Harris was sent for surgery on his injured left ankle on Wednesday and is likely to be out for three to four months, but he hasn't entirely given up hope of being fit for the World Cup. That is a supremely optimistic goal for Harris, who broke down while running in to bowl during his 29th over on Tuesday and hobbled off the field with what was later confirmed as a stress fracture in the ankle.

    It was a major disappointment for Harris, who has made a strong start to his Test career and has collected 20 wickets at 24.40 in five matches, including nine during Australia's win at the WACA this month. At 31, it won't be easy for Harris to force his way back for Australia's next Test series, especially given that he will carry a painful problem with his right knee for the rest of his career.

    "He's obviously disappointed, albeit a little bit optimistic this morning," Australia's captain Ricky Ponting said after England retained the Ashes with an innings win. "I think he's actually having surgery as we speak. It looks like it could be a few months. I had a chat to him this morning and said 'it looks like it's going to be hard for you for the World Cup', and he didn't rule that out. He's that sort of character. As you saw the other day, if he's even got one leg to run on, he'll do it."

    It would be a remarkable recovery if Harris was able to take part in the World Cup on the subcontinent, which begins in just over seven weeks. A more realistic goal for Harris is to be in contention for Australia's next Test tour, in Sri Lanka in August, which will be followed by a Test series in South Africa before the 2011-12 home summer.

    But by then, Australia could be looking to the future, with younger fast men like Josh Hazlewood, Mitchell Starc, Trent Copeland and James Pattinson all likely to push for international action in the next couple of years. Harris has been one of the quickest bowlers during the Ashes Tests and he is regarded as a genuine wicket-taker, and also has 41 ODI victims at 16.12.

    "It's a massive blow for him and a massive blow for the team as well, because he has been a great performer in every game that he's played, really," Ponting said. "He's a lion-hearted bloke that has got exceptional qualities to be a very good international bowler, as we've all seen, not just over the last couple of weeks but since he debuted in the one-day team a little while ago."

    Harris wasn't asked to bat during Australia's second innings, as the final wicket fell with the deficit still standing at 157 runs to make England bat again. He was heading off for an operation after the Test, while his team-mates were commiserating following their failure to regain the Ashes on home soil.

    "Ryan was reviewed by a specialist in Melbourne this morning," Trefor James, the Cricket Australia doctor, said. "The specialist confirmed that the best management for the stress fracture of his left ankle would be to undergo surgery. This surgery will occur today and we expect Ryan's recovery time to be three to four months."

    The injury means there will be at least one change to Australia's squad for the final Ashes Test in Sydney next week, where the spinner Michael Beer is likely to make his debut after being 12th man in Perth and Melbourne. Doug Bollinger would be the most obvious candidate to come in to the pace attack, but four fast men are not usually the preferred attack on the SCG surface.
    Australia v England, 4th Test, Melbourne, 4th day: Injured Ryan Harris out for up to four months | Cricket News | The Ashes 2010-11 | ESPN Cricinfo

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