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    Hell yeah. Of course they are.

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    They won't lose the choker tag until they win a world cup.. What I don't understand is why the same doesn't apply to Pakistan, India or England..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Langeveldt View Post
    What I don't understand is why the same doesn't apply to Pakistan, India or England..
    India have been called chokers for quite a while now. Pakistan won a WC 4 tournaments ago, which isn't really that long ago, plus they made th final in '99. Not sure about England.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LA ICE-E View Post
    I really really really really really really hope they lose the tag tomorrow.
    Looks just a wee bit difficult at the time of writing this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SJS View Post
    Looks just a wee bit difficult at the time of writing this.
    and pretty much impossible now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightprowler10 View Post
    Not sure about England.
    We're just crap.

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    To be fair, I wouldn't call this game a choke. To choke, you have to have eaten something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightprowler10 View Post
    India have been called chokers for quite a while now. Pakistan won a WC 4 tournaments ago, which isn't really that long ago, plus they made th final in '99. Not sure about England.
    Can't choke if you don't get in a position to choke.
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    TBF we've managed to lose two WC finals when we were in positions to win at times during both matches, so we weren't adverse to the occasional choke.

    Is today's performance a choke tho? Or just freezing on the big stage? Need to get my clichés sorted for the inevitable discussion in the boozer on Friday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    TBF we've managed to lose two WC finals when we were in positions to win at times during both matches, so we weren't adverse to the occasional choke.
    Should the tag really apply to a team that makes it to the WC finals? I mean its no easy ask to make three finals, and they always lost to better teams, didn't they?

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    India and SA are biggest chokers when it comes to big matches esp when they are facing Australia.

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    To choke, surely one would have to turn up?

    This was nothing more than a redundant ass ****ing with captain Smith’s waltz precluding the inevitable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightprowler10 View Post
    Should the tag really apply to a team that makes it to the WC finals? I mean its no easy ask to make three finals, and they always lost to better teams, didn't they?
    That's certainly true of 1979, but we were arguably a better one day outfit than either Oz in 1987 or Pakistan in 1992. We'd bowled the latter out for 70-odd in the group stage before rain interrupted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    That's certainly true of 1979, but we were arguably a better one day outfit than either Oz in 1987 or Pakistan in 1992. We'd bowled the latter out for 70-odd in the group stage before rain interrupted.

    You could argue that we choked in 1987. IIRC we bowled horribly at the start of the Aus innings, and a lot of our batsmen froze badly. Then there's Gatt's ludicrous reverse sweep, of course. That was a game we should have won.

    1992 was different, imo. Ultimately we lost because a number of Pakistan players played really well: crucially their world class performers produced the goods when it mattered most. There's not much shame in losing out to Imran, Javed, Wasim & Inzi playing out of their skins.

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