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    Holding slams minnows

    I see Brian Lara's No 1 fan has now probably annoyed all of Bermuda with his comments about the WC minnows (including Bermuda) saying they shouldn't be there. So do you think he's right? Is 16 teams too many? Should there be 14 (as in 2003), 12 (as in 1996 and 1999) or just the big countries (as in 1992) I'd like to see what you think. Personally I think 16 is right as it cuts down on mismatches and all the teams (except maybe Bermuda) all have a match they have a realistic chance of winning. Besides, the minnows often supply unlikely heroes - remember Austin Codrington, JB Burger (who gave England a fright in 2003) and John Davison. But what do you think?
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    I actually like all the minnows in the WC. It is the World Cup after all. Don't give them ODI status, but 16 teams is nice IMO.
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    I don't have any problem with the current format (I do have a problem with ANY game involving a non-ODI-standard team being classed ODI), I think it's impossibly better than those used in 1996, 2003 and 1999 - get the one-sided games out of the way first, even if it does mean having 8 substandard teams in the competition.

    There's no harm in having the substandard teams play up-to-standard teams if it's just making a quick, graceful exit and enjoying the time they spend there.

    This current format is the best used since 1992, as I've said more than a few times. The Super Eight and the 1 group-game involving ODI-standard teams in each group should be great viewing.
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    ........... by the way.


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    I think the format is a fairly decent compromise between spreading the cricketing gospel & ring-fencing the quality of the premier one-day tournament.

    Obviously the group stages look a bit unnecessary on paper & I can't really see there being any major upsets, but for cricket to grow as a sport in the non-test playing countries they have to have a chance to progress.
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    Ha! Fat chance they have of progressing.

    The only way they're going to get better, incidentally, is not to play a couple of games in a World Cup but to have structures put in place and, shock-horror, get people to watch and play the game en masse in the country.

    Until that happens, expecting anything from a country against genuine international-playing teams is just crazy.

    But being thrashed constantly isn't the way to get better.

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    I think that some of those minor teams playing in the World Cup will hopefully give them a bit of media and publicity in that country, to help create a better financial situation for the cricket boards, allowing them to put better structures into place. As well as the prizemoney they'd have earnt by making it to the last 16.
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    Well that didn't even seem to happen with Kenya in the last tourney, never mind Namibia...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Well that didn't even seem to happen with Kenya in the last tourney, never mind Namibia...
    It's pretty common knowledge that Kenya's cricketing administration leaves a fair bit to be desired.

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    Exactly, and while such a situation exists (is there any evidence it's any different in Namibia or, for example, Bermuda?) there's little chance of a country progressing from substandard to up-to-standard. Hell, the WICB are having a decent stab at making a transformation in the other direction using the tool of inept administration!

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    Tarring with same brush.

    Another problem is that the one country who could have successfully progressed from associate member (or similar status) to full member, thus setting some example for others to follow on how to progress through the ranks, is now a basket case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Ha! Fat chance they have of progressing.
    I didn't mean in the World Cup itself; for smaller nations progress is just being able to pit themselves against the best.

    If cricket is to grow in the nations where it's a minority sport the biggest stage is arguably the best way of creating interest. Qualifying for the World Cup certainly gave Association Football a lift in Australia.

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    Well apparently it's always been a bigger sport there than Rugby Union...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vic_orthdox View Post
    Tarring with same brush.
    Tarring who?

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    Holding didn't slam the minnows at all.

    Such a misleading title on Cricinfo.
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