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    If Warne doesn`t play in the World Cup, I`d like to see

    Gilchrist
    Hayden (or Jaques)
    Ponting
    Hussey
    Symonds
    Clarke
    Hogg
    Lee
    Bracken
    Clark
    McGrath

    And I can`t see that team losing. Four excellent one-day seamers and some of the best ODI batsmen ever. Does look a little batting light though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nnanden
    If Warne doesn`t play in the World Cup, I`d like to see

    Gilchrist
    Hayden (or Jaques)
    Ponting
    Hussey
    Symonds
    Clarke
    Hogg
    Lee
    Bracken
    Clark
    McGrath

    And I can`t see that team losing. Four excellent one-day seamers and some of the best ODI batsmen ever. Does look a little batting light though.
    Clark and Bracken will have to compete for the 3rd seamer's role and another batsman needs to be brought in, either Martyn or Hodge or Watson or another prospect (which I don't know much about). Playing 5 specialist bowlers weakens the lineup significantly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oz_fan
    England
    Likely Team
    Trescothic
    Strauss
    Vaughan
    Pieterson
    Collingwood
    Flintoff
    Geraint Jones
    Giles
    Hoggard
    Harmison
    Simon Jones
    Replace Hoggard with Anderson surely. Giles is questionable at the moment and I think Blackwell stands a better chance. Jones should be in the side but it remains to be seen if he can stay injury-free. Vaughan is also questionable, will likely be in the squad but if not, bring in Solanki or possibly Bell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adharcric
    Giles is questionable at the moment and I think Blackwell stands a better chance.
    Blackwell should only get in if Giles isn't fit, since Giles is a) a better batsman, b) a better bowler and c) a better fielder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adharcric
    Clark and Bracken will have to compete for the 3rd seamer's role and another batsman needs to be brought in, either Martyn or Hodge or Watson or another prospect (which I don't know much about). Playing 5 specialist bowlers weakens the lineup significantly.
    Hogg is considered an all-rounder. Lee just scored 60-something and 24* in the last Test. Bracken has scored 41 (I think?) in a Test Match. Clark is no mug. And then there`s Pidge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nnanden
    Hogg is considered an all-rounder. Lee just scored 60-something and 24* in the last Test. Bracken has scored 41 (I think?) in a Test Match. Clark is no mug. And then there`s Pidge.
    That's fine, it's not a long tail or anything but Australia will be better served going with another batsman because Symonds and Clarke are capable of doing the 5th-bowler duties quite well in ODIs.

    India have a similar dilemma with Pathan at #7, with Sachin, Yuvraj, Sehwag and Raina as the part-time options as opposed to Symonds and Clarke. Australia doesn't really need 5, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marc71178
    So the double he scored in the last 3 or 4 days doesn't count ?

    When I said Allrounder, I meant in both ways, not just batting, although these days, an all rounder could be classified as a good batsman and fielder
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    Ireland

    J Bray
    A Botha
    E Morgan
    E Joyce (D Joyce)
    N O'Brien (wk)
    P Gillespie
    A White
    T Johnston
    D Langford-Smith
    K McCallan (c)
    P Mooney

    Strengths:
    - The 2nd best batsmen out of the minnows in Ed Joyce, with Ashraful being th best. But there are big question marks over whether he will play as he wants to play for England. The rules for playing for minnows then Test teams keep changing, so hopefully they change so he can play for Ireland if he doesn't make the England sqaud and still be able to play for England later.
    - Have a very good middle order with three county batsmen in Morgan, E Joyce and O'Neill
    - Bat down to ten with aussie born all rounder Landford-Smith signing up

    Weakness:
    - Bray and Botha/D Joyce aren't really a reilable opening combination
    - With Trent Johnson not fully fit when it comes to bowling they don't really have a world class bowler
    - Really too heavier on their on all rounder to make up their bowling attack

    Chances: Have the potential to chase or set large total, due to their county based middle order and long batting line up. This factor gives them an outside chance to make the super eights and cause an upset. If they make the top eight they wont do much more.
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    New Zealand

    Likely Team:
    Vincent
    Fleming
    Astle
    Styris
    Marshall
    McMillan
    Oram
    McCullum
    Vettori
    Franklin/Mills
    Bond

    Strengths
    Good chasing totals
    One of the best ODI bowlers - Bond
    Big Hitters - Styris, Vincent, Oram
    Quality, economical spin option

    Weaknesses
    Not an overly stong seam attack if Bond is injured.
    Fragile middle order
    Sometimes struggle to make large totals when batting first
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    Bit harsh, Franklin and the newer Mills are more than worthy pace back-ups.

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    Bit harsh, Franklin and the newer Mills are more than worthy pace back-ups.
    Yeah it was a bit harsh. Mills has an alright record, not sure about Franklin though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nnanden
    If Warne doesn`t play in the World Cup, I`d like to see

    Gilchrist
    Hayden (or Jaques)
    Ponting
    Hussey
    Symonds
    Clarke
    Hogg
    Lee
    Bracken
    Clark
    McGrath

    And I can`t see that team losing. Four excellent one-day seamers and some of the best ODI batsmen ever. Does look a little batting light though.
    looks good Nath, but i don't think Australia would want to take out any of the top 7 batsmen in Gilly, Jaques(Hayden), Ponting, Martyn, Symo, Clarke, Hussey since its the strongest in the world.

    Ponting has shown on occassions to willingness to play 4 seamers, so i wont be surprised on occassions if all 4 play & Hogg misses a game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzy #4
    When I said Allrounder, I meant in both ways, not just batting, although these days, an all rounder could be classified as a good batsman and fielder
    And Tikolo is still far better.

    Lets face it, the only reason you're saying anything about Davison is because he's Australian.

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    still waiting for a dutch team :')
    i'd be interested to see how other see a holland side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kweek
    still waiting for a dutch team :')
    i'd be interested to see how other see a holland side.
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    Likely team:
    Zuiderent
    van Nierop
    van Bunge
    Kervezee
    ten Doeschate
    *van Troost
    Reekers
    Stelling
    Schiferli
    +Smits
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    Strengths:
    Talented middle order
    Varied bowling attack, with backup in Gokke and Seelaar
    Good keeper

    Weaknesses:
    Lack of experience
    The second opener
    Weak batting if the main three fails to fire (wouldn't count on Schiferli making 69 again)
    Lack of a real pace bowler
    Messi scores on the rebound.

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