Pakistan Thread

Richard · 09-03-2006, 07:57 AM

I'm just being greedy here...

Richard · 09-03-2006, 07:58 AM

And Liam 'ud better hurry-up with the West Indies Thread otherwise I'll be in there like a shot...

Mr Mxyzptlk · 09-03-2006, 09:15 AM

The West Indies aren't important enough for their own thread.

What's that? They're hosting the event? ...Oh...my mistake.

Richard · 09-03-2006, 09:18 AM

So Kenya and Bangladesh are barred from having their own threads?
Yay!!!!!!!!!!!

Jungle Jumbo · 09-03-2006, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard

So Kenya and Bangladesh are barred from having their own threads?
Yay!!!!!!!!!!!

If that isn't an incentive to spread more of the gospel, I don't know what is

Richard · 09-03-2006, 02:15 PM

Spread more of the gospel?

Jamee999 · 09-03-2006, 02:21 PM

Talk more about Bangladesh

Richard · 09-03-2006, 02:54 PM

Aha...

Beleg · 09-03-2006, 03:38 PM

I was totally going to make a Pakistan thread...

Richard · 10-03-2006, 04:04 AM

Sorry, mate, stolen ya thunder.

I'm sure Rich would say the same about the SA thread...

TT Boy · 07-04-2006, 04:13 PM

15 I would take

1. Inzamam-ul-Haq
2. Mohammad Yousuf
3. Rana Naved
4. Shoaib Akhtar
5. Mohammad Asif
6. Shoaib Malik
7. Imran Farhat
8. Yasir Hameed
9. Mansoor Amjad
10. Shahid Afridi
11. Rao Iftikhar Anjum
12. Kamran Akmal
13. Abdul Razzaq
14. Younis Khan
15. Yasir Arafat

adharcric · 07-04-2006, 05:33 PM

Although I'd prefer Shoaib Malik at #3, he will have to open because Younis Khan is useless at #6 when you need guys who can accelerate, just like Mohammad Kaif is for India. Farhat and Butt are both flashy left-handed openers who often throw it away, I'd say slightly more responsible and slightly less explosive versions of Gambhir. Hameed should be in there. Kaneria won't find a place in the final XI so he's not really an issue.

S Butt or I Farhat
S Malik
Y Khan
M Yousuf
Inzamam-ul-Haq*
S Afridi
K Akmal+
A Razzaq
Naved-ul-Hasan
S Akhtar
M Asif
Reserves: Y Hameed, Y Arafat, M Amjad, M Sami

IndianByHeart · 08-04-2006, 12:15 AM

Pakistan's OD team has three problems.

1 They are still struggling to find reliable pair of openers.
2 Lack of quality spinner in the team.
3 lack of quality pack up pacers.

Openers
As far as openers are concerned, i think Malik might be the solution for one of the openers, while for the other one its going to be between Farhat and Butt.While Farhat has done well recently, i'm still biased towards Butt and feel that Pakistan won't do with Butt what they have done with Nazir,Hameed,Umer etc.Butt may have been dropped from the pointless OD matches at AbuDhabi, but the selectors have said that he will consdered for Eng tour!!
Another thing to note is that the selectors have included 3 discarded openers in Hameed,Umar and Hafeez for Pak A tour, so whoever do good on A tour might get a chance to make a comeback in the team, and i have a feeling the Hameed will make it.

Spinners
Some of you guys have included Mansoor Amjad in the squad.A World Cup is not a tournament in which any young player can be drafted in, a player need to have some experiance of international cricket before he can be considered for such a tour.The fact that Inzi is still sticking with Danish shows that there will be no place for Mansoor Amjad.Inzi though do realise this weak area of Pak team, and therefore is keen to have a leggie (Danish) and a left arm spinner (Abdul Rehman) in the team.If Rehman does well then he might make it to the squad.

Back up pacers
There are 3 good frontline pacers in Akhtar,Asif and Rana, problem is with the backups.Considering that pacers are getting injured frequently, good backup pacers are vital.I think there will be place for two more pacers from the likes of Sami,Rao,Gul and Arafat.While Sami has been a great dissapointment, still i feel he will somehow make it to the team.The other one could be between Rao and Arafat.

My 15 would be.

Butt
Malik
Younis
Inzi(C)
Yousuf
Razzak
Akmal
Afridi
Akhtar
Rana
Asif

--Yasir Hameed
--Sami
--Rao(if he continue to do well) otherwise Yasir A
--Abdur Rehman or Tahir Khan.

Richard · 08-04-2006, 04:35 AM

Personally I'd give serious consideration to Afridi opening.
I find that anyone seriously willing to discard Salman Butt in ODIs in favour of Imran Farhat crazy. Butt CAN play, at least in one-dayers. Give him time, I'm near enough certain he'll end-up being a superb ODI opener.
I don't think Younis Khan should be in the team, so right now I'd go something like...
Salman
Afridi
Shoaib Malik
Inzamam
Mohammad Yousuf
Abdur\l Razzaq
+Kamran Akmal
Mr. X
Rana Naved-Ul-Hasan
Mohammad Asif
Shoaib Akhtar
Clearly, most places are assured - as I say, I certainly hope Salman can make himself bulletproof before the tournament. I've often been of the opinion that the only point in playing Afridi in ODIs is if he's going to open. Shoaib Malik is clearly capable of batting anywhere in the top four, but I've always felt Inzy and Yousuf should be at four and five respectively. Razzaq and Akmal are useful to have coming in hopefully with 10 or so overs left.
Aside from Asif, though, it's not impossible the attack might get caned. Shoaib can be unhittable and unplayable at the same time of times, but he can also be easily both when on the wrong day.

IndianByHeart · 08-04-2006, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard

Personally I'd give serious consideration to Afridi opening.
I find that anyone seriously willing to discard Salman Butt in ODIs in favour of Imran Farhat crazy. Butt CAN play, at least in one-dayers. Give him time, I'm near enough certain he'll end-up being a superb ODI opener.
I don't think Younis Khan should be in the team, so right now I'd go something like...
Salman
Afridi
Shoaib Malik
Inzamam
Mohammad Yousuf
Abdur\l Razzaq
+Kamran Akmal
Mr. X
Rana Naved-Ul-Hasan
Mohammad Asif
Shoaib Akhtar
.

Just 4 specialist batsmen(butt,Malik,Inz,Yousuf), and with Afridi opening the innings and a wkt likely to fall early (especially against the likes of Aus,SA) this team is unlikely to cross 200 total on most Onedayers!

Younis Khan is a good OD player if he bats at one down and not at number six slot.If he is atall to be replaced then he should be replaced by a batsmen rather than a bowler.

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adharcric International Coach Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 10,898	Although I'd prefer Shoaib Malik at #3, he will have to open because Younis Khan is useless at #6 when you need guys who can accelerate, just like Mohammad Kaif is for India. Farhat and Butt are both flashy left-handed openers who often throw it away, I'd say slightly more responsible and slightly less explosive versions of Gambhir. Hameed should be in there. Kaneria won't find a place in the final XI so he's not really an issue. S Butt or I Farhat S Malik Y Khan M Yousuf Inzamam-ul-Haq* S Afridi K Akmal+ A Razzaq Naved-ul-Hasan S Akhtar M Asif Reserves: Y Hameed, Y Arafat, M Amjad, M Sami Last edited by adharcric; 07-04-2006 at 05:51 PM.

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TT Boy Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: . Posts: 16,321	15 I would take 1. Inzamam-ul-Haq 2. Mohammad Yousuf 3. Rana Naved 4. Shoaib Akhtar 5. Mohammad Asif 6. Shoaib Malik 7. Imran Farhat 8. Yasir Hameed 9. Mansoor Amjad 10. Shahid Afridi 11. Rao Iftikhar Anjum 12. Kamran Akmal 13. Abdul Razzaq 14. Younis Khan 15. Yasir Arafat

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IndianByHeart U19 Vice-Captain Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 576	Pakistan's OD team has three problems. 1 They are still struggling to find reliable pair of openers. 2 Lack of quality spinner in the team. 3 lack of quality pack up pacers. Openers As far as openers are concerned, i think Malik might be the solution for one of the openers, while for the other one its going to be between Farhat and Butt.While Farhat has done well recently, i'm still biased towards Butt and feel that Pakistan won't do with Butt what they have done with Nazir,Hameed,Umer etc.Butt may have been dropped from the pointless OD matches at AbuDhabi, but the selectors have said that he will consdered for Eng tour!! Another thing to note is that the selectors have included 3 discarded openers in Hameed,Umar and Hafeez for Pak A tour, so whoever do good on A tour might get a chance to make a comeback in the team, and i have a feeling the Hameed will make it. Spinners Some of you guys have included Mansoor Amjad in the squad.A World Cup is not a tournament in which any young player can be drafted in, a player need to have some experiance of international cricket before he can be considered for such a tour.The fact that Inzi is still sticking with Danish shows that there will be no place for Mansoor Amjad.Inzi though do realise this weak area of Pak team, and therefore is keen to have a leggie (Danish) and a left arm spinner (Abdul Rehman) in the team.If Rehman does well then he might make it to the squad. Back up pacers There are 3 good frontline pacers in Akhtar,Asif and Rana, problem is with the backups.Considering that pacers are getting injured frequently, good backup pacers are vital.I think there will be place for two more pacers from the likes of Sami,Rao,Gul and Arafat.While Sami has been a great dissapointment, still i feel he will somehow make it to the team.The other one could be between Rao and Arafat. My 15 would be. Butt Malik Younis Inzi(C) Yousuf Razzak Akmal Afridi Akhtar Rana Asif --Yasir Hameed --Sami --Rao(if he continue to do well) otherwise Yasir A --Abdur Rehman or Tahir Khan.

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Richard Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 2005 Posts: 80,407	Personally I'd give serious consideration to Afridi opening. I find that anyone seriously willing to discard Salman Butt in ODIs in favour of Imran Farhat crazy. Butt CAN play, at least in one-dayers. Give him time, I'm near enough certain he'll end-up being a superb ODI opener. I don't think Younis Khan should be in the team, so right now I'd go something like... Salman Afridi Shoaib Malik Inzamam Mohammad Yousuf Abdur\l Razzaq +Kamran Akmal Mr. X Rana Naved-Ul-Hasan Mohammad Asif Shoaib Akhtar Clearly, most places are assured - as I say, I certainly hope Salman can make himself bulletproof before the tournament. I've often been of the opinion that the only point in playing Afridi in ODIs is if he's going to open. Shoaib Malik is clearly capable of batting anywhere in the top four, but I've always felt Inzy and Yousuf should be at four and five respectively. Razzaq and Akmal are useful to have coming in hopefully with 10 or so overs left. Aside from Asif, though, it's not impossible the attack might get caned. Shoaib can be unhittable and unplayable at the same time of times, but he can also be easily both when on the wrong day.

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