World Cup Ladders

Hazza · 08-03-2006, 10:22 AM

Hi all.

As I'm sure you are all aware, the World Cup will be upon us reasonably soon, and, in the run-up to the event, I'd like to be able to construct a 'World Cup Ladder' for each international team.

I'm sure some of you are un-clear of what World Cup Ladders are, so, here's a quick summary:

Basically, 40 players are chosen and put in order of their place in the international running in the lead-up to the World Cup, and this list is reviewed as new, slightly more obscure, players come into the international scene throughout the build-up.

Examples of the ladders can be found here:

http://www.football365.com/features/...y_175225.shtml

So, please feel free to post your own ideas for international ladders here- I'll be interested to see some of you guys' thoughts on the line-ups for the tournament.

Scaly piscine · 08-03-2006, 10:52 AM

Sounds good, I'm sure someone is moving this to the World Cup section as I type. I'd struggle to do beyond 20 tho so I'll leave it to someone else who follows England 'A' and the academy lot.

Blaze · 08-03-2006, 12:35 PM

To give you an idea of how much things can change over time, this was my NZ 40 that I posted in the staff forum before the West Indies series.

1. Daniel Vettori
2. Shane Bond
3. Stephen Fleming
4. Nathan Astle
5. Brendon McCullum
6. Kyle Mills
7. Lou Vincent
8. Jacob Oram
9. Scott Styris
10. Peter Fulton
11. Ross Taylor
12. Jeetan Patel
13. James Franklin
14. Hamish Marshall
15. Jamie How
16. Michael Mason
17. Matt Sinclair
18. Chris Harris
19. Andre Adams
20. Craig McMillan
21. Peter McGlashan
22. Bruce Martin
23. Daryll Tuffey
24. James Marshall
25. Michael Papps
26. Jesse Ryder
27. Rob Nicol
28. Paul Hitchcock
29. Ewen Thompson
30. Joseph Yovich
31. Lance Hamilton
32. Chris Martin
33. Ian Butler
34. Mark Gillespie
35. Aaron Redmond
36. Jarred Englefield
37. Tama Canning
38. Paul Wiseman
39. James McMillan
40. Todd Astle

And this is it now

1. Daniel Vettori
2. Shane Bond
3. Stephen Fleming
4. Nathan Astle
5. Brendon McCullum
6. Kyle Mills
7. Lou Vincent
8. Jacob Oram
9. Scott Styris
10. Peter Fulton
11. Ross Taylor
12. Jeetan Patel
13. James Franklin
14. Hamish Marshall
15. Jamie How
16. Michael Mason
17. Matt Sinclair
18. Chris Harris
19. Andre Adams
20. Craig McMillan
21. Peter McGlashan
22. Bruce Martin
23. Daryll Tuffey
24. James Marshall
25. Michael Papps
26. Jesse Ryder
27. Rob Nicol
28. Paul Hitchcock
29. Ewen Thompson
30. Joseph Yovich
31. Lance Hamilton
32. Chris Martin
33. Ian Butler
34. Mark Gillespie
35. Aaron Redmond
36. Jarred Englefield
37. Tama Canning
38. Paul Wiseman
39. James McMillan
40. Todd Astle

Thoughts?

sirjeremy11 · 08-03-2006, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaze

1. Daniel Vettori
2. Shane Bond
3. Stephen Fleming
4. Nathan Astle
5. Brendon McCullum
6. Kyle Mills
7. Lou Vincent
8. Jacob Oram
9. Scott Styris
10. Peter Fulton
11. Ross Taylor
12. Jeetan Patel
13. James Franklin
14. Hamish Marshall
15. Jamie How
16. Michael Mason
17. Matt Sinclair
18. Chris Harris
19. Andre Adams
20. Craig McMillan
21. Peter McGlashan
22. Bruce Martin
23. Daryll Tuffey
24. James Marshall
25. Michael Papps
26. Jesse Ryder
27. Rob Nicol
28. Paul Hitchcock
29. Ewen Thompson
30. Joseph Yovich
31. Lance Hamilton
32. Chris Martin
33. Ian Butler
34. Mark Gillespie
35. Aaron Redmond
36. Jarred Englefield
37. Tama Canning
38. Paul Wiseman
39. James McMillan
40. Todd Astle

Thoughts?

I find it hard to keep in injured players like Butler and Tuffey (badly injured), but I guess the idea is that they work up and down the ladder. I think ol' Gillespie could be a bit higher. Especially after his good first class season. However, if this is an ODI ladder, those CD bowlers are quite hard to go past. Maybe also have Diamanti in the mix? Otherwise, not a bad top 20 especially.

James · 08-03-2006, 01:41 PM

Thread moved.

Hazza · 08-03-2006, 02:20 PM

Thanks James

Matteh · 08-03-2006, 08:05 PM

England
1 - Michael Vaughan
2 - Marcus Trescothick
3 - Andrew Flintoff
4 - Paul Collingwood
5 - Kevin Pietersen
6 - Andrew Strauss
7 - Steve Harmison
8 - Mathew Hoggard
9 - Simon Jones
10 - Ashley Giles
11 - Geriant Jones
12 - James Anderson
13 - Ian Bell
14 - Ian Blackwell
15 - Liam Plunkett
16 - Vikram Solanki
17 - Matt Prior
18 - Kabir Ali
19 - Shaun Udal
20 - Darren Gough
21 - Chris Tremlett
22 - Ali Cook
23 - Jon Lewis
24 - Ed Joyce
25 - James Kirtley
26 - Alex Wharf
27 - Alex Loudon
28 - RIkki Clarke
29 - Chris Read
30 - Sajid Mahmood
31 - Usman Afzaal
32 - Ali Brown
33 - Ryan Sidebottom
34 - David Harrison
35 - Ed Smith
36 - Luke Wright
37 - Michael Yardy
38 - Mark Ealham
39 - Simon Cook
40 - James Tredwell

Feel free to have a go if i've made any glaring omissions...

Barney Rubble · 08-03-2006, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matteh

England
1 - Michael Vaughan
2 - Marcus Trescothick
3 - Andrew Flintoff
4 - Paul Collingwood
5 - Kevin Pietersen
6 - Andrew Strauss
7 - Steve Harmison
8 - Mathew Hoggard
9 - Simon Jones
10 - Ashley Giles
11 - Geriant Jones
12 - James Anderson
13 - Ian Bell
14 - Ian Blackwell
15 - Liam Plunkett
16 - Vikram Solanki
17 - Matt Prior
18 - Kabir Ali
19 - Shaun Udal
20 - Darren Gough
21 - Chris Tremlett
22 - Ali Cook
23 - Jon Lewis
24 - Ed Joyce
25 - James Kirtley
26 - Alex Wharf
27 - Alex Loudon
28 - Nick Knight
29 - Chris Read
30 - Sajid Mahmood
31 - Usman Afzaal
32 - Ali Brown
33 - Ryan Sidebottom
34 - David Harrison
35 - Ed Smith
36 - Luke Wright
37 - Adam Hollioake
38 - Mark Ealham
39 - Simon Cook
40 - James Tredwell

Feel free to have a go if i've made any glaring omissions...

Nick Knight's retired from ODI cricket. Adam Hollioake's retired from all cricket. There's also a few other selections in there which I'd not agree with - you'll see when my completed England ladder is up on the frontpage in a few weeks.

Matteh · 08-03-2006, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barney Rubble

Nick Knight's retired from ODI cricket. Adam Hollioake's retired from all cricket. There's also a few other selections in there which I'd not agree with - you'll see when my completed England ladder is up on the frontpage in a few weeks.

It was quite rough

i'm interested to see who you don't agree with though

Barney Rubble · 08-03-2006, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matteh

It was quite rough

i'm interested to see who you don't agree with though

You'll just have to wait and see.

vic_orthdox · 08-03-2006, 11:06 PM

01. Ponting
02. McGrath
03. Gilchrist
04. Lee
05. M. Hussey
06. Clarke
07. Symonds
08. Martyn
09. Hogg
10. Bracken
11. Watson
12. Clark
13.Haddin
14. Jaques
15. Hopes
16. Hodge
17. Kasprowicz
18. Tait
19. Gillespie
20. White
21. Lewis
22. Cosgrove
23. Thornley
24. Marsh
25. MacGill
26. D. Hussey
27. Hayden
28. North
29. Cleary
30. Voges
31. Hilfenhaus
32. Simmons
33. Griffith
34. O'Brien
35. Harwood
36. Bird
37. Klinger
38. Casson
39. Hartley
40. Philipson

I'm bound to have left a heap of people out.

Burpey · 08-03-2006, 11:50 PM

Bit rough on poor Katich there, Jack

superkingdave · 09-03-2006, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matteh

England
1 - Michael Vaughan
2 - Marcus Trescothick
3 - Andrew Flintoff
4 - Paul Collingwood
5 - Kevin Pietersen
6 - Andrew Strauss
7 - Steve Harmison
8 - Mathew Hoggard
9 - Simon Jones
10 - Ashley Giles
11 - Geriant Jones
12 - James Anderson
13 - Ian Bell
14 - Ian Blackwell
15 - Liam Plunkett
16 - Vikram Solanki
17 - Matt Prior
18 - Kabir Ali
19 - Shaun Udal
20 - Darren Gough
21 - Chris Tremlett
22 - Ali Cook
23 - Jon Lewis
24 - Ed Joyce
25 - James Kirtley
26 - Alex Wharf
27 - Alex Loudon
28 - Nick Knight
29 - Chris Read
30 - Sajid Mahmood
31 - Usman Afzaal
32 - Ali Brown
33 - Ryan Sidebottom
34 - David Harrison
35 - Ed Smith
36 - Luke Wright
37 - Adam Hollioake
38 - Mark Ealham
39 - Simon Cook
40 - James Tredwell

Feel free to have a go if i've made any glaring omissions...

where's tricky rikki?

will do mine when i have more time

Neil Pickup · 09-03-2006, 02:03 AM

Pakistan

1 Shahid Afridi
2 Inzamam-ul-Haq
3 Shoaib Akhtar
4 Shoaib Malik
5 Mohammad Yousuf
6 Abdul Razzaq
7 Kamran Akmal
8 Younis Khan
9 Mohammad Asif
10 Salman Butt
11 Azhar Mahmood
12 Faisal Iqbal
13 Danish Kaneria
14 Rana Naved-ul-Hasan
15 Yasir Hameed
16 Umar Gul
17 Yasir Arafat
18 Arshad Khan
19 Imran Farhat
20 Mohammad Sami
21 Rao Iftikhar Anjum
22 Taufeeq Umar
23 Jamshed Ahmed
24 Zulqarnain Haider
25 Shabbir Ahmed
26 Hasan Raza
27 Mansoor Amjad
28 Rafatullah Mohmand
29 Anwar Ali
30 Bazid Khan
31 Mohammad Khalil
32 Imran Nazir
33 Mohammad Irshad
34 Misbah-ul-Haq
35 Shahid Nazir
36 Moin Khan
37 Mohammad Hafeez
38 Asim Kamal
39 Junaid Zia
40 Riaz Kail
41 Amin-ur-Rehman
42 Rizwan Ahmed
43 Faisal Athar
44 Imran Tahir
45 Sarfraz Ahmed
46 Riaz Afridi
47 Mohammad Wasim
48 Najaf Shah
49 Agha Sabir
50 Akhtar Ayub

Thoughts?

marc71178 · 09-03-2006, 02:08 AM

You can't count?

08-03-2006, 10:22 AM	#1 (permalink)
Hazza U19 Cricketer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Greater London (UK) Posts: 411	World Cup Ladders Hi all. As I'm sure you are all aware, the World Cup will be upon us reasonably soon, and, in the run-up to the event, I'd like to be able to construct a 'World Cup Ladder' for each international team. I'm sure some of you are un-clear of what World Cup Ladders are, so, here's a quick summary: Basically, 40 players are chosen and put in order of their place in the international running in the lead-up to the World Cup, and this list is reviewed as new, slightly more obscure, players come into the international scene throughout the build-up. Examples of the ladders can be found here: http://www.football365.com/features/...y_175225.shtml So, please feel free to post your own ideas for international ladders here- I'll be interested to see some of you guys' thoughts on the line-ups for the tournament.

08-03-2006, 10:52 AM	#2 (permalink)
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Blaze Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NZ Posts: 5,124	To give you an idea of how much things can change over time, this was my NZ 40 that I posted in the staff forum before the West Indies series. 1. Daniel Vettori 2. Shane Bond 3. Stephen Fleming 4. Nathan Astle 5. Brendon McCullum 6. Kyle Mills 7. Lou Vincent 8. Jacob Oram 9. Scott Styris 10. Peter Fulton 11. Ross Taylor 12. Jeetan Patel 13. James Franklin 14. Hamish Marshall 15. Jamie How 16. Michael Mason 17. Matt Sinclair 18. Chris Harris 19. Andre Adams 20. Craig McMillan 21. Peter McGlashan 22. Bruce Martin 23. Daryll Tuffey 24. James Marshall 25. Michael Papps 26. Jesse Ryder 27. Rob Nicol 28. Paul Hitchcock 29. Ewen Thompson 30. Joseph Yovich 31. Lance Hamilton 32. Chris Martin 33. Ian Butler 34. Mark Gillespie 35. Aaron Redmond 36. Jarred Englefield 37. Tama Canning 38. Paul Wiseman 39. James McMillan 40. Todd Astle And this is it now 1. Daniel Vettori 2. Shane Bond 3. Stephen Fleming 4. Nathan Astle 5. Brendon McCullum 6. Kyle Mills 7. Lou Vincent 8. Jacob Oram 9. Scott Styris 10. Peter Fulton 11. Ross Taylor 12. Jeetan Patel 13. James Franklin 14. Hamish Marshall 15. Jamie How 16. Michael Mason 17. Matt Sinclair 18. Chris Harris 19. Andre Adams 20. Craig McMillan 21. Peter McGlashan 22. Bruce Martin 23. Daryll Tuffey 24. James Marshall 25. Michael Papps 26. Jesse Ryder 27. Rob Nicol 28. Paul Hitchcock 29. Ewen Thompson 30. Joseph Yovich 31. Lance Hamilton 32. Chris Martin 33. Ian Butler 34. Mark Gillespie 35. Aaron Redmond 36. Jarred Englefield 37. Tama Canning 38. Paul Wiseman 39. James McMillan 40. Todd Astle Thoughts? Last edited by Blaze; 08-03-2006 at 08:11 PM.

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