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    The decline of Australia after the 2007 world cup

    Every team has its peak time and its downfall. I personally think that Australian cricket will decline after the 2007 word cup since most of their senior players will most probably retire. When looking at the current bowling attack it doesn’t look the greatest too. What are your thoughts ???
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    well yea it will decline, but not as low as West Indies. But Australia have some good young talent coming through, so even if some other side becomes thebest in the world i would still expect australia to be one of the more competitive sides around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie
    well yea it will decline, but not as low as West Indies. But Australia have some good young talent coming through, so even if some other side becomes thebest in the world i would still expect australia to be one of the more competitive sides around.

    yes definitely....but they wont be the best team in the world like they are right now...

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    I guess the gap between India and Australia would become close by then.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nookie_lk
    yes definitely....but they wont be the best team in the world like they are right now...
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    Umm maybe because he is making a obscene gesture...
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    it only requires a bit of common-sense.....really.

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    The basic fact of the matter is we will (or should) lose plenty of good players from ODIs after WC2007...
    Gilchrist, McGrath, Martyn, Hayden if he makes it back to the squad, Gillespie if he makes it back to the squad, Ganguly if he makes it back to the squad, Dravid, Tendulkar, Astle, Fleming, Harris (there really is genuine hope that he might make it back to the squad), Bond, Inzamam-Ul-Haq, Mohammad Yousuf, Shoaib Akhtar, Gibbs, Pollock, Jayasuriya, Murali, Atapattu, Vaas, Lara, Chanderpaul and Dillon if he gets back into the squad.
    Whereas after WC2003 the losses were smaller: Knight, Caddick, Stewart, Hussain, Srinath, Saeed Anwar, Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis, Donald, Rhodes, Kirsten, Tillikeratne, de Silva, Hooper, Campbell, Andy Flower, Guy Whittall. Though there were players who we've lost in the meantime... Bevan, Lehmann, Grant Flower, Jacobs, Klusener, Cairns, and with hindsight it'd have been much better for their teams if they'd retired after the Cup. Although Bevan's being dropped was stupid.
    But yeah... WC2007 should be a watershed, and obviously there'll always be World Cups in the future where loads of good players retire simualtaneously. Or certainly there should be.
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    That's why I am really looking forward to the 2007 WC. It'll be the ODI swan song (or at the least last WC) for many great players. A must see event.
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    Well... the last WC should be the ODI swansong, it's stupid to carry on playing ODIs if you're not going to be around for the next World Cup.

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    Not always IMO. For eg., Tendulkar will in all likelihood not make the next WC in 2011, however following WC 2007 I believe India come down to Australia. I see no reason why he shouldn't try and end his ODI career with a series win down under. Particularly if his team still needs him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nookie_lk
    Every team has its peak time and its downfall. I personally think that Australian cricket will decline after the 2007 word cup since most of their senior players will most probably retire. When looking at the current bowling attack it doesn’t look the greatest too. What are your thoughts ???
    McGrath, Warne and Gilchrist are 3 of the greatest ever players and obviously cant be replaced easily.

    However, the future for Aus looks sound and all that is required is experience.

    Will they be as dominant? Probably not.

    BTW, the same question could be asked of India. How will their batting lineup look in the next few years without Dravid, Laxman and Tendulkar?

    How will SL's attack look without Vaas and Murali?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono
    Not always IMO. For eg., Tendulkar will in all likelihood not make the next WC in 2011, however following WC 2007 I believe India come down to Australia. I see no reason why he shouldn't try and end his ODI career with a series win down under. Particularly if his team still needs him.
    So India should waste a good chance to start the preparation for WC2011 immidiately?
    Tendulkar will have a perfectly decent chance in the Test-series (I certainly hope it won't be the last Test-series he plays), why does he need to play ODIs for which there will be no real purpose in him playing?
    All ODIs played needlessly are likely to be a drain on the length of a Test-career.

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    ^ Yes but its less interesting because India and SL have never dominated the cricketing world like Australia has. In fact, they've never even come close.

    So if they fall off the pace, they'll go from a good to very good team to one that is not as good. Australia may go from a completely and unbelievably awesome team to one that is 'just in the pack' of the other top teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by social
    McGrath, Warne and Gilchrist are 3 of the greatest ever players and obviously cant be replaced easily.

    However, the future for Aus looks sound and all that is required is experience.

    Will they be as dominant? Probably not.

    BTW, the same question could be asked of India. How will their batting lineup look in the next few years without Dravid, Laxman and Tendulkar?

    How will SL's attack look without Vaas and Murali?
    Laxman is such a wonderful ODI player... Warne has been playing ODIs for the last 3 years, hasn't he?
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