Player of the Tournament poll

marc71178 · 23-03-2003, 09:15 AM

Using the Fantasy Cricket Points workings, I've taken the top 10 scorers, and listed them for people to place their vote:

krkode · 23-03-2003, 10:35 AM

Do fantasy points take into account the inspiration and the heart that a certain player's performance gives the rest of the team? :P

If not, then that's why Tendulkar's not first :duh: :P

Personally, I think, if anybody changed their team's fate during this world cup, it's Tendulkar.

Rik · 24-03-2003, 05:17 AM

The player of the Tournament is Bichel in my opinion...Tendulkar did his usual trick of failing in a final...

krkode · 24-03-2003, 10:38 AM

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Originally posted by Rik
The player of the Tournament is Bichel in my opinion...Tendulkar did his usual trick of failing in a final...

Usual?

[begin krkode's opinion] I won't say your wrong, but personally, I felt Bichel didn't do anything great in the final either. AND his performances weren't nearly as inspirational or important to the team as Tendulkar's were. [/end my own opinion]

Rik · 24-03-2003, 10:44 AM

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Originally posted by krkode
Usual?

Yes, when India get to a final and the pressure is on I can't remember a time when he's delivered. He's a great player, but he messed up when it really mattered.

Bichel just did everything that was needed and more. You can't ask for more than that.

krkode · 24-03-2003, 10:47 AM

Well, there's India v Australia Sharjah final where he scored 137 when India chased down 271.

hmm...ok, I concede. I'm sure there are more successes though. Maybe he specializes in getting us there, more than getting us through.

Rich2001 · 24-03-2003, 10:58 AM

Adam Gilchrist - 1459.11

Ricky Ponting - 957.35

Can you explain what happened here????

- They scored within about 10 runs of each other; R.Ponting being the slight leader.

- R.Ponting had 2 100's to Gilchrist's 0

- R.Ponting had 1 50 as well and Gilchrist had 4

- The overall S/R were within about 18 of each other, I think Gilchrist was 105 and R.Ponting was about 88

- R.Ponting took 11 catches to Gilchrist's 21

- R.Ponting had 2 Not Out's to Gilchrist's none

YET Gilchrist has a lead of over 500 points on R.Ponting, where excatly did he gain such a massive advantage?

Iam not complaining as I have 8 out of 10 of those leaders in my side

marc71178 · 24-03-2003, 11:44 AM

Strike rate made a big difference.

Also, the comp was split into group and Finals.

In the Groups, Ponting had a S/R of 73.37, equating to a factoring of 0.91712, wheras Gilchrist had S/R of 1.14497.

In the Finals, Ponting had 97.22, a factor of 1.430556, but Gilchrist hit 120.09, earning him the highest possible factoring of 2!

So in both phases, Gilchrist got a much higher factor, plus of course 10 extra catches at 25 each, although his 18 byes lost him 36 of those!

Mr Mxyzptlk · 24-03-2003, 01:43 PM

I think I speak for ducks everywhere when I say that Vasbert Drakes should be on the ballot!

Rik · 24-03-2003, 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by marc71178
Strike rate made a big difference.

Also, the comp was split into group and Finals.

In the Groups, Ponting had a S/R of 73.37, equating to a factoring of 0.91712, wheras Gilchrist had S/R of 1.14497.

In the Finals, Ponting had 97.22, a factor of 1.430556, but Gilchrist hit 120.09, earning him the highest possible factoring of 2!

So in both phases, Gilchrist got a much higher factor, plus of course 10 extra catches at 25 each, although his 18 byes lost him 36 of those!

Wouldn't that mean that Gilchrist has a huge advantage over Ponting because he is a wicket keeper and wicket keepers are presented with more catching chances than Backward Point where Ponting fields? Also do fielders get points for run outs? And how?

marc71178 · 24-03-2003, 04:55 PM

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Originally posted by Rik
Wouldn't that mean that Gilchrist has a huge advantage over Ponting because he is a wicket keeper and wicket keepers are presented with more catching chances than Backward Point where Ponting fields? Also do fielders get points for run outs? And how?

Yes, there are points for run outs effected.

So Gilchrist had an advantage in that, but in a way Ponting had an advantage in that he only had his batting to concentrate on!

As it stands, solely on batting points, Gilchrist beat Ponting fairly handsomely anyway.

View Poll Results: Who get's your vote as Player of the Tournament?
Chaminda Vaas - 1473.36	1	4.17%
Adam Gilchrist - 1459.11	2	8.33%
Glenn McGrath - 1310.93	1	4.17%
Sachin Tendulkar - 1203.80	12	50.00%
Andy Bichel - 1097.99	2	8.33%
Brett Lee - 1077.30	0	0%
John Davison - 1054.51	2	8.33%
Muttiah Muralitharan - 1012.05	1	4.17%
Ricky Ponting - 957.35	1	4.17%
Shane Bond - 954.30	2	8.33%
Voters: 24. You may not vote on this poll

23-03-2003, 09:15 AM	#1 (permalink)
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24-03-2003, 05:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
Rik Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Shropshire, England Posts: 8,353	The player of the Tournament is Bichel in my opinion...Tendulkar did his usual trick of failing in a final... __________________ "Age is just a stupid number" 20...that's a rather big number :(:(:(

24-03-2003, 10:58 AM	#7 (permalink)
Rich2001 Cricket Web Vice Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 7,181	Adam Gilchrist - 1459.11 Ricky Ponting - 957.35 Can you explain what happened here???? - They scored within about 10 runs of each other; R.Ponting being the slight leader. - R.Ponting had 2 100's to Gilchrist's 0 - R.Ponting had 1 50 as well and Gilchrist had 4 - The overall S/R were within about 18 of each other, I think Gilchrist was 105 and R.Ponting was about 88 - R.Ponting took 11 catches to Gilchrist's 21 - R.Ponting had 2 Not Out's to Gilchrist's none YET Gilchrist has a lead of over 500 points on R.Ponting, where excatly did he gain such a massive advantage? Iam not complaining as I have 8 out of 10 of those leaders in my side Last edited by Rich2001; 24-03-2003 at 11:05 AM.

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23-03-2003, 10:35 AM	#2 (permalink)
krkode State Captain Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,781	Do fantasy points take into account the inspiration and the heart that a certain player's performance gives the rest of the team? :P If not, then that's why Tendulkar's not first :duh: :P Personally, I think, if anybody changed their team's fate during this world cup, it's Tendulkar.

24-03-2003, 10:47 AM	#6 (permalink)
krkode State Captain Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,781	Well, there's India v Australia Sharjah final where he scored 137 when India chased down 271. hmm...ok, I concede. I'm sure there are more successes though. Maybe he specializes in getting us there, more than getting us through.

24-03-2003, 11:44 AM	#8 (permalink)
marc71178 Eyes not spreadsheets Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: England Posts: 56,343	Strike rate made a big difference. Also, the comp was split into group and Finals. In the Groups, Ponting had a S/R of 73.37, equating to a factoring of 0.91712, wheras Gilchrist had S/R of 1.14497. In the Finals, Ponting had 97.22, a factor of 1.430556, but Gilchrist hit 120.09, earning him the highest possible factoring of 2! So in both phases, Gilchrist got a much higher factor, plus of course 10 extra catches at 25 each, although his 18 byes lost him 36 of those!

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