chris.hinton
International Captain
A Great performance from the lads, to beat Pakistan and well done to Anderson (English cricket new Hope). I see all the pakistanis are crying.
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England Win
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Langeveldt
Soutie
Hmm i dont think Pakistan will be "crying" because at the end of they day they can still qualify and they are still stronger than England..
Seriously good performance from Collingwood, Anderson and Vaughan.
I remember seeing Anderson last year for Lancashire, I think he has dropped a lot of pace. althought I would never want him to end up like Harmison, I hope he doesnt turn out to be a military medium
Seriously good performance from Collingwood, Anderson and Vaughan.
I remember seeing Anderson last year for Lancashire, I think he has dropped a lot of pace. althought I would never want him to end up like Harmison, I hope he doesnt turn out to be a military medium
Langeveldt
Soutie
Re: Re: Re: England Win
I wish I was around during the "terrace times"... sounds interesting lol
anilramavarma said:
I wish I was around during the "terrace times"... sounds interesting lol
full_length
U19 Vice-Captain
Basically people from opposite 'terraces', only one side is lecturing the other on good behaviour :rolleyes:
Anyway, on the 'terrrace elements' thingie:
These jokers came up with that because of the people watching cricket from the terrace. I bet there are some countries that'd give anything for that much interest in watching their own cricketers!
I dont think any of these fellows have seen cricket in India. It's a fun outing. Anybody who;s been in the stands for a match (note, any international match) in India will vouch for that. It's a tremendous party atmosphere there. Further crowds generally know their cricket too. I understand that the terrace elements bs is about the fairweather supporters, who diss the opposition teams a lot, but the people they picked the term from are the fans that cricket currently runs on. I dont know about you but I WOULDNT want to see a crowd watching cricket ion the ground with tea and sandwich (or what have you), gently tapping one hand on the other every now and then to acknowledge a good shot!!!
Surprisingly, vandalism and violence are not really the defining/most common characteristics of a cricket crowd in India
The sanctimonious can go on preaching though if it makes their day.
Anyway, on the 'terrrace elements' thingie:
These jokers came up with that because of the people watching cricket from the terrace. I bet there are some countries that'd give anything for that much interest in watching their own cricketers!
I dont think any of these fellows have seen cricket in India. It's a fun outing. Anybody who;s been in the stands for a match (note, any international match) in India will vouch for that. It's a tremendous party atmosphere there. Further crowds generally know their cricket too. I understand that the terrace elements bs is about the fairweather supporters, who diss the opposition teams a lot, but the people they picked the term from are the fans that cricket currently runs on. I dont know about you but I WOULDNT want to see a crowd watching cricket ion the ground with tea and sandwich (or what have you), gently tapping one hand on the other every now and then to acknowledge a good shot!!!
Surprisingly, vandalism and violence are not really the defining/most common characteristics of a cricket crowd in India
The sanctimonious can go on preaching though if it makes their day.
Langeveldt
Soutie
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: England Win
Ah sorry I didnt realize it was that bad
anilramavarma said:
Ah sorry I didnt realize it was that bad
marc71178
Eyes not spreadsheets
Sorry, but how many games in a row in the most recent series were interupted?full_length said:
Surprisingly, vandalism and violence are not really the defining/most common characteristics of a cricket crowd in India
And how many incidents of that type have there been in other grounds around the world?
Gotchya
State Vice-Captain
Well....I wasn't expecting England to win in all sincerity. But Pakistan just keep buckling away :!(
To put up 134 (that too courtesy Akhtar) against an amateurish (bar Caddick) bowling attack is not acceptable at all. Not taking away anything away from England here, Anderson bowled as good deliveries as I have seen any swing bowler bowl, still though Inzi, Youhana or Saeed dont have anyone to blame. Its sad really to see that Pakistan dont have the consistency in their batting to compliment a fiery bowling attack.
Now their progression will solely depend on NRR and beating India (give that India beat England!) Otherwise its probably tada to Pakistan. This is the closest to the worst Pakistan can play, they cant go any lower really, seeing the scorecard at 75-7 the left hand name could perfectly have been Namibia or Holland.....
The team selection was again, overly optimistic. What did they think before going into this match ? Picking Saqlain was the first right move onthis tour.....Picking Saqlain + Razzaq + Shahid Afridi was yet another blunder. Admittingly they might have thought that four specialist batsmen would be enough to handle England, and what mockery was made of that desicion :rolleyes:
The juggling circus continues at the top of the order, Saeed Anwar is the one batsmen who can dominate oppositions, but he cant do that by moving three feet infront of the leg stump and turning it away or reaching out to deliveries......now Elahi will have to be incorporated into the side along with Anwar, if they persist with Afridi God knows when we will have a good showing from him. Is the cost too much to play him ? in such a premier tounament as well ? Either its Razzaq or Afridi not both. Razzaq with his recent so-so form is not an automatic choice, Afridi is cetainly not with his failure to score anything for over a year and a half... So either Razzaq or Afridi goes out and a specialist batsmen comes in.
England, when put Pakistan in to bowl, they were half the way there to beating us. The batting will just not deliver I suppose and the team will remain a one wheeled cart.
Some positives from this game; Waqar is among the wickets, and Shoaib is bowling very very accurately, surlely his economy rate has improved manfold over the last two or so years.
All hope is not lost still, after this humiliating loss if they decide to give it to India and smash Holand perhaps we might see them in the super sixes but what then ? :!(
Congratulations to England though on pulling off a stunner. They should be in high spirits, and if they manage to beat India perhaps that would be the impetus they have been searching for so long.
To put up 134 (that too courtesy Akhtar) against an amateurish (bar Caddick) bowling attack is not acceptable at all. Not taking away anything away from England here, Anderson bowled as good deliveries as I have seen any swing bowler bowl, still though Inzi, Youhana or Saeed dont have anyone to blame. Its sad really to see that Pakistan dont have the consistency in their batting to compliment a fiery bowling attack.
Now their progression will solely depend on NRR and beating India (give that India beat England!) Otherwise its probably tada to Pakistan. This is the closest to the worst Pakistan can play, they cant go any lower really, seeing the scorecard at 75-7 the left hand name could perfectly have been Namibia or Holland.....
The team selection was again, overly optimistic. What did they think before going into this match ? Picking Saqlain was the first right move onthis tour.....Picking Saqlain + Razzaq + Shahid Afridi was yet another blunder. Admittingly they might have thought that four specialist batsmen would be enough to handle England, and what mockery was made of that desicion :rolleyes:
The juggling circus continues at the top of the order, Saeed Anwar is the one batsmen who can dominate oppositions, but he cant do that by moving three feet infront of the leg stump and turning it away or reaching out to deliveries......now Elahi will have to be incorporated into the side along with Anwar, if they persist with Afridi God knows when we will have a good showing from him. Is the cost too much to play him ? in such a premier tounament as well ? Either its Razzaq or Afridi not both. Razzaq with his recent so-so form is not an automatic choice, Afridi is cetainly not with his failure to score anything for over a year and a half... So either Razzaq or Afridi goes out and a specialist batsmen comes in.
England, when put Pakistan in to bowl, they were half the way there to beating us. The batting will just not deliver I suppose and the team will remain a one wheeled cart.
Some positives from this game; Waqar is among the wickets, and Shoaib is bowling very very accurately, surlely his economy rate has improved manfold over the last two or so years.
All hope is not lost still, after this humiliating loss if they decide to give it to India and smash Holand perhaps we might see them in the super sixes but what then ? :!(
Congratulations to England though on pulling off a stunner. They should be in high spirits, and if they manage to beat India perhaps that would be the impetus they have been searching for so long.
Langeveldt
Soutie
England bowling? Amateurish? I think your just a bit bitter, they arent strong, but White Flintoff Giles etc are not Amateurish. They are decent bowlers in their own right...
Langeveldt
Soutie
And why drop Afridi? He is an awesome bowler against lesser batting attacks, and a fine fielder as well..
Someone just needs to drum it in to Afridi that not every ball need go for six, or just drop him down the order...
Someone just needs to drum it in to Afridi that not every ball need go for six, or just drop him down the order...
Gotchya
State Vice-Captain
Alright. Until that happens leave the guy out. You wouldn't persist with a batsman with such an extended bad patch. Its not about trying to hit sixe atm, its about being able to negotiate swing and good line and length on bouncy wickets. Soemthing Afridi is especially not good at.Langeveldt said:
He's a good fielder, and gives Waqar the extra option and gets in some quick overs, still though until he produces runs he's not outwrighin his disadvantages.