Australia: one man team - Page 2

pup11 · 19-09-2007, 07:45 PM

I think its more to do with the unpredictable nature of T20 cricket that has led to Australia losing games in this series, i think the major problem with Australia is when they have batted first they haven't been able to set a decent target on the board (because they try to get 400 of 20 overs, atleast that is the way they bat) i think Australia should assess the pitch-conditions well a set a realistic target for them and then bat accordingly.
Btw, wasn't Watto a part of the Australian team in the CB series Final 1, Final 2 and the 3 games in the C-H series in New Zealand?

Prince EWS · 19-09-2007, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pup11

I think its more to do with the unpredictable nature of T20 cricket that has led batted to Australia losing games in this series, i think the major problem with Australia is when they have first they haven't been able to set a decent target on the board (because they try to get 400 of 20 overs, atleast that is the way they bat) i think Australia should assess the pitch-conditions well a set a realistic target for them and then bat accordingly.

Nah, all Watto IMO.

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Btw, wasn't Watto a part of the Australian team in the CB series Final 1, Final 2 and the 3 games in the C-H series in New Zealand?

Well, he was only just coming back from injury then. Also...
*amnesia dust*

Prince EWS · 19-09-2007, 07:51 PM

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FFS, we may be bad, but we're not that bad!

If you lose against Australia without Watson then yes, you are.

Nnanden · 20-09-2007, 06:18 AM

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Btw, wasn't Watto a part of the Australian team in the CB series Final 1, Final 2 and the 3 games in the C-H series in New Zealand?

Shut up, or we'll make you shut up.

Poker Boy · 20-09-2007, 06:29 AM

I think Ponting, Hayden, Gilchritst, Hussey and Lee might disagree with this argument...Mind you they won today with him (but he didn't finish his spell. He was clutching his hamstring). The Aussies thought he would be their answer to Flintoff. He is. He's an allrounder who can't stay fit either....

Prince EWS · 20-09-2007, 06:32 AM

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I think Ponting, Hayden, Gilchritst, Hussey and Lee might disagree with this argument...Mind you they won today with him (but he didn't finish his spell. He was clutching his hamstring). The Aussies thought he would be their answer to Flintoff. He is. He's an allrounder who can't stay fit either....

Exactly. Watson played and Australia were back to their brutal best. He's so good he doesn't even have to play well; he just has to be there.

Josh · 20-09-2007, 07:30 AM

Please...

readie · 20-09-2007, 07:33 AM

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Please...

beat me to it lol

TT Boy · 20-09-2007, 07:38 AM

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Quite the opposite, from the little attention I've been paying. Some of the Twenty20 "specialists" seem to have been among few to have performed for England in this tournament. It's the Test players who've not done much.

Test cricketers were England’s best performers… KP topped the batting averages whilst Anderson and Flintoff were England’s best bowlers, in regards to wickets and economy.

Richard · 21-09-2007, 03:32 AM

And who came 2nd and 3rd and 4th in the batting?

grecian · 21-09-2007, 05:53 AM

Well considering England only picked about three Test regulars in their top order, and Colly has had a terrible series. I'm guessing most of them will be ODI or twenty/20 specialist. A fairly tenuous defence of a clearly wrong statement, IMHO.

Apart from colly (who you don't think should be playing Tests anyway) who are the Test players, you used the plural, who failed to perform?

Perm · 21-09-2007, 02:15 PM

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Apart from colly (who you don't think should be playing Tests anyway) who are the Test players, you used the plural, who failed to perform?

Prior and Collingwood are the two I can think of. I suppose you could say Flintoff's batting and Broad as a bowler.

Richard · 21-09-2007, 02:20 PM

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Well considering England only picked about three Test regulars in their top order, and Colly has had a terrible series. I'm guessing most of them will be ODI or twenty/20 specialist. A fairly tenuous defence of a clearly wrong statement, IMHO.

Apart from colly (who you don't think should be playing Tests anyway) who are the Test players, you used the plural, who failed to perform?

I'm more bothered about "Twenty20 specialists" who didn't fail really.

Perm · 21-09-2007, 02:21 PM

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I'm more bothered about "Twenty20 specialists" who didn't fail really.

Well who were the Test players who failed to perform?

grecian · 21-09-2007, 02:27 PM

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Prior and Collingwood are the two I can think of. I suppose you could say Flintoff's batting and Broad as a bowler.

Well, Broad hasn't played Tests yet. Freddies batted as well as he has in Tests recently.

You have a point with Prior.

The Test players did better then the Twenty/20 specialists in general, though. Shah and Mascarenas are now regulars in the ODI team, which was why they were in the squad.

Snape, Maddy, Kirtley all had negligible tournaments. Wright was shocking.. Schofield did OK, but as has been said, he wasn't one of the top bowlers.

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pup11 International Coach Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: India Posts: 12,134	I think its more to do with the unpredictable nature of T20 cricket that has led to Australia losing games in this series, i think the major problem with Australia is when they have batted first they haven't been able to set a decent target on the board (because they try to get 400 of 20 overs, atleast that is the way they bat) i think Australia should assess the pitch-conditions well a set a realistic target for them and then bat accordingly. Btw, wasn't Watto a part of the Australian team in the CB series Final 1, Final 2 and the 3 games in the C-H series in New Zealand?

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