Second Round Group F - Australia, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Bangladesh

[JASON]

Second Round of 20/20 Starts on 16th September when the Preliminary Round finishes.

Group F contains B1, D1, A2 and C2.
(unless the 3rd ranked Team in any of these Groups upsets the others)

At this stage it seems the Likely Teams would be -
Australia (B1), Pakistan (D1) , West Indies (A2) and SL ( C2).




Sun 16
14:00 local, 12:00 GMT 14th Match, Group F - TBC v TBC
Newlands, Cape Town
Australia B1 v West Indies A2

Mon 17
18:00 local, 16:00 GMT 16th Match, Group F - TBC v TBC
New Wanderers Stadium, Johannesburg
Pakistan D1 v C2 Sri Lanka

Tue 18
14:00 local, 12:00 GMT 18th Match, Group F - TBC v TBC
New Wanderers Stadium, Johannesburg
B1 Australia v D1 Pakistan
Tue 18
18:00 local, 16:00 GMT 19th Match, Group F - TBC v TBC
New Wanderers Stadium, Johannesburg
A2 West Indies v C2 Sri Lanka

Thu 20
10:00 local, 08:00 GMT 22nd Match, Group F - TBC v TBC
Newlands, Cape Town
B1 Australia v C2 Sri Lanka
Thu 20
14:00 local, 12:00 GMT 23rd Match, Group F - TBC v TBC
Newlands, Cape Town
A2 West Indies v D1 Pakistan

[Scaly piscine]

The A1, A2, B1 and so on are fixed to a country, regardless of whether they finish second or first (if they finish third the non-seed takes their slot). It's the same as what was done in the World Cup in WI so you can follow your team in advance, up to the semi finals.

So for instance Australia are B1, whether they qualify first or second in their group they're still B1 and will still be in this Group F.

Here is the list:

Group A: Bangladesh, South Africa (A1), West Indies (A2)
Group B: England (B2), Australia (B1), Zimbabwe
Group C: New Zealand (C1), Sri Lanka (C2), Kenya
Group D: India (D2), Pakistan (D1), Scotland

So basically Group F is expected to be WI, Australia, SL, Pakistan and Group E is expected to be SA, England, NZ and India.

[JASON]

Originally Posted by Scaly piscine

The A1, A2, B1 and so on are fixed to a country, regardless of whether they finish second or first (if they finish third the non-seed takes their slot). It's the same as what was done in the World Cup in WI so you can follow your team in advance, up to the semi finals.

So for instance Australia are B1, whether they qualify first or second in their group they're still B1 and will still be in this Group F.

Here is the list:

Group A: Bangladesh, South Africa (A1), West Indies (A2)
Group B: England (B2), Australia (B1), Zimbabwe
Group C: New Zealand (C1), Sri Lanka (C2), Kenya
Group D: India (D2), Pakistan (D1), Scotland

So basically Group F is expected to be WI, Australia, SL, Pakistan and Group E is expected to be SA, England, NZ and India.

Thanks for that....I will change/Edit my post .

But don't you think Its a bit ridiculous of the ICC to fix things like that....It eliminates the Surprise element the thrill of the variation that could be brought on by an upset result etc...Just my personal opinion.

[JASON]

So Group F is pretty much likely to be Australia + any of Pakistan, SL, WI.

Its almost certain that Australia and Pakistan will go through.

[Athlai]

Originally Posted by JASON

So Group F is pretty much likely to be Australia + any of Pakistan, SL, WI.

Its almost certain that Australia and Pakistan will go through.

WI to upset.

[Scaly piscine]

Originally Posted by JASON

Thanks for that....I will change/Edit my post .

But don't you think Its a bit ridiculous of the ICC to fix things like that....It eliminates the Surprise element the thrill of the variation that could be brought on by an upset result etc...Just my personal opinion.

Well it didn't make any difference in the World Cup in West Indies because that was one big round robin anyway, with this it certainly does make a difference because it makes the first group stage a bit of a pointless exercise/glorified warmup in most cases. The groups are determined by seedings, but the seedings are obviously a bit worthless when they're based on ODI rankings, from the time when SA were ranked number 1. I can see the reasoning of why they did it like this, because the tournament is compressed it would result in a mad rush by fans after the first groups are completed, but this will happen anyway with the semis and final so there's arguments for and against whatever you do.

[JASON]

Could Zimbabwe actually replace Australia in this group in the second round... ?

[Athlai]

Definitely. Zimbabwe could possibly beat England (unlikely) and Australia may not even make it in if they beat England depending on how much they win by and how much England beat Zim (if they do).

Zimbabwe is in a great position.

[The_Bunny]

Originally Posted by Athlai

Definitely. Zimbabwe could possibly beat England (unlikely) [b]and Australia may not even make it in if they beat England depending on how much they win by and how much England beat Zim (if they do).[/b

Zimbabwe is in a great position.

It would be almost impossible if England beat Zimbabwe and and Australia beat England for Aus not to go through, as in they would both have to be wins on the last ball or by 1 run or somthing very simular..
On the other hand in that scenario it would be very possibe for England to miss out.
So England Need a big win over Zimbabwe to make sure they go through..

[Scaly piscine]

Just to clear up any uncertainty:

Bangladesh now replace West Indies in this group.
If England beat Australia (or there's a tie/draw/rainout) then Zimbabwe will replace Australia in this group.

[Shaggy Alfresco]

So it's likely to be England, India (?), Bangladesh and Sri Lanka (?).

[Jamee999]

No. Australia/Zimbabwe, India (?), Bangladesh and Sri Lanka (?).

[Shaggy Alfresco]

England have a net run rate of +2.5 at the moment, it'd have to be an absolute obliteration by Australia for the Antipodeans to finish first.

[Jamee999]

It doesn't matter. If Australia get through, they are B1

[haroon510]

wait iam still confuss..

so in the first round only one team gets eliminated or two teams?