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    Second Round Group E - South Africa, India, New Zealand, England

    The Second Round of 20/20 World Cup starts Sunday 16th September after the Preliminary round is completed . Group E in the second round has the following 4 teams- A1,C1, B2 , D2

    At this stage it seems it will most likely be South Africa (A1) , NZ (C1), England(B2) and India (D2). Unless a 3rd ranked Tean in any of these groups upsets any of the 2 teams in these groups.


    Sun 16
    10:00 local, 08:00 GMT 13th Match, Group E - TBC v TBC
    New Wanderers Stadium, Johannesburg
    C1 New Zealand v D2 India
    Sun 16
    18:00 local, 16:00 GMT 15th Match, Group E - TBC v TBC
    Newlands, Cape Town
    A1 South Africa v B2 England

    Tue 18
    10:00 local, 08:00 GMT 17th Match, Group E - TBC v TBC
    Kingsmead, Durban
    C1 New Zealand v B2 England

    Wed 19
    14:00 local, 12:00 GMT 20th Match, Group E - TBC v TBC
    Kingsmead, Durban
    A1 South Africa v C1 New Zealand
    Wed 19
    18:00 local, 16:00 GMT 21st Match, Group E - TBC v TBC
    Kingsmead, Durban
    B2 England v D2 India

    Thu 20
    18:00 local, 16:00 GMT 24th Match, Group E - TBC v TBC
    Kingsmead, Durban
    A1 South Africa v D2 India
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    South Africa odds on to finish top of Group E and the second Semi finalist will be a tussle between India and NZ , IMHO.

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    All 4 teams could end up being average or worse. I would say India is the outsider because fielding loses or earns you runs which are tough to get back. In 50 overs cricket you can simply attack a bit earlier or a bit more, in 20 over cricket you're already playing on the limit so extra runs gained and lost here and there make a big difference.

    At a push I would go for England and NZ, with SA and India turning in dire performances - but anything can happen obviously.
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    Indian fielding is not defensible of course. But some of the poster boys of bad fielding are not in the squad (thinking the 30+ folks, Powar, Munaf).

    Some other Indian liabilities, like Pathan being good only for the first 3 overs or so in bowling and Sehwag in batting, are also fine in this format.

    Dont dispute your primary point, that India has the weakest hand here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jeevan View Post
    Indian fielding is not defensible of course. But some of the poster boys of bad fielding are not in the squad (thinking the 30+ folks, Powar, Munaf).

    Some other Indian liabilities, like Pathan being good only for the first 3 overs or so in bowling and Sehwag in batting, are also fine in this format.

    Dont dispute your primary point, that India has the weakest hand here.
    Yes. India is not a great fielding side and an untried bowling side as faras this format goes. Batting is a bit closer to odi's so thats not such abig worry barring the inexperience.

    A final side of

    Sehwag
    Karthik
    Dhoni
    Yuvraj
    Uthappa
    Gambhir/Rohit Sharma
    Pathan I
    Pathan Y/Joginder Sharma
    Harbhajan
    Sreesanth/Agarkar
    RP Singh

    may/could spring a surprise. I still feel they will miss Sachin very badly. Add just him in this line up and it looks much better. Though I agree with his decision to stay out due to physical reasons. Any talk of his not being right for this format is pure garbage.
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    Could Scotland go through , If India lost to Pakistan?

    They would have to lose by a bigger margin than Scotland .

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    Quote Originally Posted by JASON View Post
    Could Scotland go through , If India lost to Pakistan?

    They would have to lose by a bigger margin than Scotland .
    50 runs or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JASON View Post
    Could Scotland go through , If India lost to Pakistan?

    They would have to lose by a bigger margin than Scotland .
    50+ and soctland go through
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    Pietersen vs South Africa is huge. Cue important dropped catch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nnanden View Post
    Pietersen vs South Africa is huge. Cue important dropped catch.
    Cue a match-winning knock from KP.
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    Cue an Indian win.

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    Cue a fantastic diving catch from Smith off KP, with KP going for a duck first ball...


    Seriously, I think South Africa's bowlers are there for the taking. They don't have a spinner and no change of pace. Ntini, in particular, has looked absolute cannon-fodder so far. South Africa have to bowl first if they win the toss.

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    Can the thread title get changed now please, same with the other thread.
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    Like the look of NZ and ENG... SA may come through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaminda_00 View Post
    Can the thread title get changed now please, same with the other thread.
    Agree, Can moderators please Change this thread Title to

    "Second Round 20/20 Group E - South Africa, India, New Zealand , England"

    and the other thread title to

    " Second Round 20/20 Group F - Australia, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Bangladesh"

    Thanks.

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