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    McCullum to open the batting


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    Can't beleive Daniel Vettori's comments

    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Vettori
    McCullum's a natural opener
    No, he most certainly is not. He was a failure at the top of the order in ODI cricket and this backs up the point that he is not a natural opener.

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    whenever you have the wicket-keeper opening the batting it gives the side a great balance
    The side already had great balance, I don't see how this is going to change that.

    Anyway, to be expected really. There was talk that McCullum would play as a specialist batsman with Hopkins to take the gloves, but it seems unlikely given that Vettori thinks he has found the right 'balance'.
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    Sri Lanka become favorites for the group again. I can't understand why you wouldn't have Fulton and Vincent opening. Both have done a decent job and are far more suited to the role the McCullum. Might as well have Vettori opening himself, will be as effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perm View Post
    Can't beleive Daniel Vettori's comments

    No, he most certainly is not. He was a failure at the top of the order in ODI cricket and this backs up the point that he is not a natural opener.

    The side already had great balance, I don't see how this is going to change that.

    Anyway, to be expected really. There was talk that McCullum would play as a specialist batsman with Hopkins to take the gloves, but it seems unlikely given that Vettori thinks he has found the right 'balance'.
    Completely agree. It's very frustrating for me to hear comments like this from Vettori. When exactly has he succeeded opening the batting? ODIs? No. First class? No. List A? No...

    If they want him to open, well fine, but at least admit he's done nothing to actually warrant that role. He's still not even dominating domestically.


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    McCullum is not a natural opener however he does have potential in that role. He needs to stop trying to be the next Gilchrist and do what he does best. Score at a reasonable rate, even if its just singles. As for Fulton opening, please no. Middle order players are not openers, even if they are in great form. I'd prefer Fulton at three or four.
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    I think for the Twenty20 NZ is trying to experiment with having the guys who can launch quickly up the top and then if that fails have the more reliable and slightly slower run-scorers after them. The Twenty20 format is jsut another ooportunity to see whether McCullum could possible cut it as an opener, however I agree that McCullum at 7 is a perfect position for the skills he brings and having him as an opener is due to the fact that NZ has a lack of decent openers and an obsession with converting middle order batsmen to opening.

    IIRC, When the team was announced Bracewell said that McCullum and Vincent will open together followed by Oram at 3 and then I think it was Styris or Fulton after that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perm View Post
    No, he most certainly is not. He was a failure at the top of the order in ODI cricket and this backs up the point that he is not a natural opener.
    I most certainly agree with this... This waste of time tactic is one that Bracewell has used time and again and has failed time and again... What a surprise that they go back to it once Bracers has been re-appointed. When's Hamish going to get the grovelling phone call asking for his return?

    Not only does this mean we waste time at the top of the order with a 'McCague' style pinch hitter against the new ball, but it means we lose his expect run accumulation abilities against the old ball later on.. and we don't even have Jimmy F to backup with the bat when the middle order fails yet again.

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    Given he's opened in the other Twenty20 games I thought it was almost a given he'd open in the Twenty20 World Championships.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaly piscine View Post
    Given he's opened in the other Twenty20 games I thought it was almost a given he'd open in the Twenty20 World Championships.
    Pretty sure everyone else thought the same but were hoping he wouldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sportychic33 View Post
    I think for the Twenty20 NZ is trying to experiment with having the guys who can launch quickly up the top and then if that fails have the more reliable and slightly slower run-scorers after them. The Twenty20 format is jsut another ooportunity to see whether McCullum could possible cut it as an opener, however I agree that McCullum at 7 is a perfect position for the skills he brings and having him as an opener is due to the fact that NZ has a lack of decent openers and an obsession with converting middle order batsmen to opening.

    IIRC, When the team was announced Bracewell said that McCullum and Vincent will open together followed by Oram at 3 and then I think it was Styris or Fulton after that.
    ORAM AT THREE?!?!?! Oh no we are screwed. Poor technique and inconsistent. Exactly the opposite of what you need for a number three.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaly piscine View Post
    What opening batsmen do NZ actually have?

    Seems increasingly silly to drop or give Fleming a rest.
    I beleive for limited overs stuff they are:

    Central Districts

    Jamie How
    Geoff Barnett
    Peter Ingram

    Otago

    Craig Cumming
    Chris Gaffeney
    Gareth Hopkins?

    Canterbury

    Michael Papps
    Todd Astle

    Wellington

    Stephen Fleming
    Jesse Ryder

    Auckland

    Lou Vincent
    Richard Jones

    Not sure on Northern Districts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post

    Wellington

    Stephen Fleming
    Jesse Ryder

    Erm.... no.... Wellington have used Matthew Bell (remember him ) and the useless Sam Fairley over the last 12 months. Flem would replace Fairley, but Ryder's been used as a middle order bat for the last couple of years, with a few exceptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    ORAM AT THREE?!?!?! Oh no we are screwed. Poor technique and inconsistent. Exactly the opposite of what you need for a number three.
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