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    Quote Originally Posted by Perm View Post
    I seriously don't buy into the whole, "she's a woman, so she'll get people watching" because I can't comprehend why they would watch, because she's such a poor commentator. I mean, the concept of having a woman in the box is a decent one, but I just don't think Donna Williams does the job.
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    She was woeful.

    And why should a woman get a gig ahead of someone who has played that level of cricket?

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    I shouldn't comment on this as when I did before the last Ashes I got into trouble - but if you are a man who hasn't played international cricket you're best chance of being a commentator is to have a sex change IMO a woman shouldn't be there - BUT. if they want to go down that route have a Clare Connor or Melanie Jones who has played the game.(surely if a male commentator has to be an ex player same with a woman - that's equality)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poker Boy View Post
    I shouldn't comment on this as when I did before the last Ashes I got into trouble - but if you are a man who hasn't played international cricket you're best chance of being a commentator is to have a sex change IMO a woman shouldn't be there - BUT. if they want to go down that route have a Clare Connor or Melanie Jones who has played the game.(surely if a male commentator has to be an ex player same with a woman - that's equality)
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    In response to Julian87, in AFL, some of the best commentators have never played the at the highest level. Also quality wise, Australia's best ever radio commenator Alan McGilvray never played at the highest level either. So if they're good enough I don't see why that level matters, not that I'm saying that Donna Symonds is, but that is a different issue (marketing the format etc as has been discussed).
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    Quote Originally Posted by pasag View Post
    Mark Nicholas?
    Plus Tony Cozier, Harsha Bhogle and others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dasa View Post
    Plus Tony Cozier, Harsha Bhogle and others.
    Yeah and then you move onto the journalists and writers on the game, Gideon Haigh - the best going around these days as well as Osman Samiuddin, Peter Roebuck (commentator as well). And then you have the greatest ever writers on the game, Sir Neville Cardus, A.A. Thomson and CLR James who never played Tests either.
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    Some excellent posts from pasag on this topic.

    She was pretty bad, and created the feeling that she'd been taught cricketing buzz words but didn't actually know what they meant - at one stage she referred to a batsman having "arrived on the crease". Nevertheless, it's fairly obvious why she's there, and it's the same reason they have dancers and DJs and **** like that. It's part of the 20/20 package, and it seems to do pretty well at pulling in the crowds.

    I've got no problem with a female commentator, but it does surprise me that they went for her ahead of a former female cricketer or something. ABC radio has done quite well with a former female cricketer as a commentator, for example.

    Does anyone know Donna's background? Is she a sports journalist or something? And is English a second language? She had the air of someone like Waqar Younis, who may well know plenty about the game, but struggles at times with proper expression.
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    She has got better since the beginning..
    Doesnt talk as much during the delivery anymore Imo

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    Commentators are probably thinking that because the game is fast-paced so they are also required to speak non-stop nonsense, but the likes of Donna Symonds, Harsha Bhogle, Tony Cozier and Gavaskar have been really irritating most of the times during this tournament.

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    She's not that bad, but she's not that good either.

    And feminism or any of that bs should never come into it. If she is better than a man, then put her in. If not, then the man gets the job.

    Bumble is by far the most enjoyable commentator over there a.t.m. Chappell isn't that bad either.

    I'm missing Tawny Greig though.

    But Bill Lawry probably wouldn't gone down too well. These days he says 'bang!!' when a boundary is hit. Bloody hell, imagine how he would be commentating T20!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Days of Grace View Post
    If she is better than a man, then put her in. If not, then the man gets the job.
    The issue is that "better" is relative. Personally I'm not a fan of cheerleader commentators, I think commentators are there to analyse the game and offer something constructive to assist the viewer, but obviously the view of cricket networks as a whole is that commenators are there to make the game more exciting and accessible. If they think having a woman will do that, irrespective of the quality of her analysis, then they'll employ her. It's not really about being "better", it's about providing a particular image for the broadcast.

    I don't like it, but then I don't like the music when a boundary is hit either. I'll watch cricket anyway, so it's not really aimed at me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurrz View Post
    yea that was funny

    and when they were talking about tasmanians
    yeah I forgot about the Tasmanians . You always get great value from Bumble, I remember when Daren Powel bowled Alastair Cook I think and he screamed "FULL PINT" as in a flat beer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mermaidman View Post
    yeah I forgot about the Tasmanians

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