mr_mister
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I would call that a good effort for an associate team. Also I don't know why you're adding the word 'quite' to your quote of my post but whatever marc's gonna marc
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turnstyle
First Class Debutant
Cricket Records | Ireland | Records | One-Day Internationals | Result summary | ESPN Cricinfo
That's 10 years of ODI fixtures.
I think 7 from 21 is punching above weight.
turnstyle
First Class Debutant
Are Ireland good enough to be put in the FTP? Nah, and probably will never be. It's not the point though.
Why should there even be the need for a test spot. Why can't two countries with ODI status play each other over 5 days in white clothing and call it a test?
Shady Slim
International Coach
i feel that keeping them can't hurt
like what about when aus qualifies for the soccer World Cup, i have no interest in soccer but know they'll be reliably thumped
just as an associate thing
i feel that tour games should be against associate teams from that region instead of first class second elevens
like what about when aus qualifies for the soccer World Cup, i have no interest in soccer but know they'll be reliably thumped
just as an associate thing
i feel that tour games should be against associate teams from that region instead of first class second elevens
Furball
Evil Scotsman
It's an excellent record for a team that's lost its 3 best players to England in the last decade, that doesn't have its own professional structure, and which doesn't get treated seriously by the ICC or FTP when it comes to teams playing ODIs against them.
Furball
Evil Scotsman
They're just following the West Indies' blueprint for cricket domination.
Flem274*
123/5
#betterthanengland
mr_mister
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Also they managed to win important games. Like in 07 they got slaughtered in the super 8 section, but they still made it past the group stage at least with that Pak victory. There was that famous win against England in 2011, and last year they really deserved to advance to the quarters. Their win/loss record is deceiving
cnerd123
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IDK if this is trolling or you seriously think playing deliveries pitching outside leg is just as easy as those pitched outside off.Try hitting any yorkers when bowled regularly. The counter arguments are getting flimsier and flimsier.
Maybe you're an exceptional batsman in that regard, but by and large deliveries that land outside of ones legstump are harder to hit and harder to reach. If the laws were designed to encourage bowlers to bowl that way, they would, 10/10 no exceptions. Especially in limited overs cricket.
It's why umpires are harsher for wides down the legside than down the off in FC cricket (Since the law states that its wide if the batsman woudn't be able to reach it, and your reach down the legside is shorter than your reach on the off), and why anything down leg in LO cricket is a wide (since bowling down leg would become a game-breaking tactic so it needs to be discourage).
andruid
International Coach
If they used that reasoning in soccer imagine how much stronger the England team would be?
I think we are missing out on the crux of the issue by narrowing it down to Ireland's performance in recent world Cups only. If you look at u19 World Cups you have a bunch of Associates outgunning full members only to have to qualify for the next world cup through the WCL grinder, while full members merely need to RSVP. Apparently kenya gpt less revenue for going all the way to the semis of the 2003 World Cup that full members that got drummed out in the first round. Apparently Zimbabwe got more money from a t20 world cup they pulled out of than Ireland did for getting into the super 8s (IIRC)
Then you get Associates having to comply with a whole bunch of accountability, and auditing checks that would put some Full Members to shame, if they had to comply with them, just to get the scraps which fall off the full members table.
Then you've got this big three clique who've decided that they are entitled to corner the bulk of the revenue, World cup hosting rights and control of the key ICC committees for the foreseeable future because as long their own tummies are full everybody else ought to be thankful.
The whole Full member-associate-affiliate membership structure is an indefensible anachronism that is strangling the growth of the game as a whole.
wellAlbidarned
International Coach
awta
turnstyle
First Class Debutant
Not quite the same innit. Porterfield, O'Brien, Wilson etc play County Cricket but aren't a product of the English setup.
The Hutt Rec
International Vice-Captain
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Every game I go to either me or one of my mates gets annoyed as f about this!
Every game I go to either me or one of my mates gets annoyed as f about this!
andruid
International Coach
Point I was making is what if the England football team could poach players from multitude of foreign nationals coming through the academies of the likes of Arsenal, Man U Man City on the basis that their native countries were lower tier on the footballing pyramid?
Black_Warrior
Cricketer Of The Year
As much as I agree with you, that's not even half of what's impressive about these posts.