Who would win a test series between England and West Indies if play started tomorrow?

[marc71178]

It's hardly Swahili. Give him a break

It is however, not English, and others have been warned about this in the past.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Ah, now I'm getting a picture

Hmmnnn, interesting. Implying that it would be a source of amusement if I were gay. Now in the words of Richard "that is homophobic."

 

[pasag]

It is however, not English, and others have been warned about this in the past.

Actually...

 

[Fiery]

Hmmnnn, interesting. Implying that it would be a source of amusement if I were gay. Now in the words of Richard "that is homophobic."

 

[marc71178]

Actually...

That's not to do with text speak though is it?

 

[pasag]

That's not to do with text speak though is it?

The point remains the same. Other people have requested he and others stop which is fine, you however have crossed the line into accusing him of breaking forum rules, which he plainly isn't.

 

[Richard]

I think it requires hyperbole to suggest he's gone that far, TBH.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

The word can be used as some sort insult to people in some European Countries, but even in those terms it's not racist. It's no different to Australian people calling all English people "poms" which if you want to take it literally is a highly offensive insult and refers to English immigrants now living in Australia or New Zealand. Australian people will use it to describe all Englishmen as "whinging poms" but of course we don't all scream "racist".

Haha, that's such crap. That's like suggesting that because continental European immigrants often refer to themsleves as "wogs" in Australia, "wog" is no longer a racial epithet. Replace "wog" at will with any other assimilated racist insult you care to name.

Dago is obviously a racist insult and always has been, and it's hardly a shock that it's become slang to refer to someone that doesn't speak English correctly. Do you seriously think that's unrelated to its origins as racial abuse? Using "dago" to refer to a Spanish immigrant and using "dago speak" to refer to someone who mangles the local langauge regardless of their background is hardly a major leap. I suppose "****** speak" would have no racial connotations as well?

Unless you're out to offend and annoy people, there's better ways to make a point.

 

[pasag]

I think it requires hyperbole to suggest he's gone that far, TBH.

I don't think so at all. It's not just one incident either and with respect to Marc, whose work in the Predictions League I do value heaps, his bullying of members, some nearly 10 years younger than him, comes off really, really poorly on his behalf.

 

[Richard]

******

Not filtered?

 

[Richard]

I don't think so at all. It's not just one incident either and with respect to Marc, whose work in the Predictions League I do value heaps, his bullying of members, some nearly 10 years younger than him, comes off really, really poorly on his behalf.

You've met Erik Heath?

 

[pasag]

You've met Erik Heath?

.....

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

I certainly wouldn't.

As I say - I've never heard the term before and haven't a clue what it means.

Would be interested to know what Fiery feels is race-referential about the term?

It's entirely a race referential term. It's a fairly simple process to look it up. Or failing that, just google for "dago" and take a look at the sorts of things that come up. Anyway, for your benefit, some dictionary references:


Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
da·go /ˈdeɪgoʊ/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[dey-goh] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -gos, -goes. (often initial capital letter) Slang: Disparaging and Offensive.
a person of Italian or sometimes Spanish origin or descent.

American Heritage Dictionary
da·go also Da·go (dā'gō) Pronunciation Key
n. pl. da·gos also Da·gos or da·goes also Da·goes Offensive Slang
Used as a disparaging term for an Italian, Spaniard, or Portuguese.
[Alteration of Spanish Diego, a given name, from Latin Iacōbus, Jacob.]

WordNet
dago
noun
offensive terms for a person of Italian descent [syn: wop]

 

[Richard]

Haha, that's such crap. That's like suggesting that because continental European immigrants often refer to themsleves as "wogs" in Australia, "wog" is no longer a racial epithet. Replace "wog" at will with any other assimilated racist insult you care to name.

Dago is obviously a racist insult and always has been, and it's hardly a shock that it's become slang to refer to someone that doesn't speak English correctly. Do you seriously think that's unrelated to its origins as racial abuse? Using "dago" to refer to a Spanish immigrant and using "dago speak" to refer to someone who mangles the local langauge regardless of their background is hardly a major leap. I suppose "****** speak" would have no racial connotations as well?

I actually see what you mean there, 't'was a connection that (for some bizarre reason) did not occur to me.

It's always interesting to get a young-old angle on this racist\isn't-racist stuff... was actually just thinking earlier about this incident and particularly Neil's response (not sure how old Anil R is).

L T and Mike (bh) are clearly amongst our older groups of membership.

 

[Richard]

It's entirely a race referential term. It's a fairly simple process to look it up. Or failing that, just google for "dago" and take a look at the sorts of things that come up. Anyway, for your benefit, some dictionary references:


Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
da·go /ˈdeɪgoʊ/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[dey-goh] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun, plural -gos, -goes. (often initial capital letter) Slang: Disparaging and Offensive.
a person of Italian or sometimes Spanish origin or descent.

American Heritage Dictionary
da·go also Da·go (dā'gō) Pronunciation Key
n. pl. da·gos also Da·gos or da·goes also Da·goes Offensive Slang
Used as a disparaging term for an Italian, Spaniard, or Portuguese.
[Alteration of Spanish Diego, a given name, from Latin Iacōbus, Jacob.]

WordNet
dago
noun
offensive terms for a person of Italian descent [syn: wop]

O...K... was there really any need to reply so aggressively to me like that? I can appreciate you've got your back up over this and that's fair enough, but don't take it out on innocent bystanders. And you might do well to read my post above, where I actually credit you with making me think about the matter more deeply.

 

[FaaipDeOiad]

O...K... was there really any need to reply so aggressively to me like that? I can appreciate you've got your back up over this and that's fair enough, but don't take it out on innocent bystanders. And you might do well to read my post above, where I actually credit you with making me think about the matter more deeply.

My post wasn't actually intended to be aggressive at all. Sorry if it came across that way.

 

[Richard]

.....

Is that a yes or a no?

 

[Richard]

My post wasn't actually intended to be aggressive at all. Sorry if it came across that way.

OK, fair enough. It certainly seemed that way: "It's not exactly hard to find-out - here's a few examples given that you're incapable of it, though," - that sort of thing.

If not, all well and good.

 

[pasag]

Is that a yes or a no?

It means wtf, I have no idea what you're on about.

 

[Richard]

Have...
You...
Met...
Erik...
Heath...

I can't really make it much clearer than that.

Just a yes or a no?