Where would you rate Ray Lindwall?

[subshakerz]

Best pacer of his time but not quite the flashy numbers.

 

[trundler]

Right up there tbh. Average suffers a bit from coming out of retirement but his record is top notch otherwise. I'd put him about level with Donald or Trueman.

 

[BazBall21]

Tempted to rate him over Trueman because of his better away record but suspect he bowled on some more sporting Australian tracks than the ones Trueman got in 1962/63. Had a good record against Len Hutton on memory and sorted the Ws out when they came to Australia.

 

[trundler]

Tempted to rate him over Trueman because of his better away record but suspect he bowled on some more sporting Australian tracks than the ones Trueman got in 1962/63. Had a good record against Len Hutton on memory and sorted the Ws out when they came to Australia.

Same tier but I'd take Lindwall for those reasons.

 

[BazBall21]

Same tier but I'd take Lindwall for those reasons.

His record after the first 40 tests is bullet-proof. Did alright in WI after that considering the conditions.

 

[Slifer]

He's great and all but as you know there are questions marks over how he'd do in Asia in the long term. Definite top 20 but not quite top 10 imo.

 

[Coronis]

Behind Davidson but fighting right there with Hoggard.

 

[The Sean]

He's great and all but as you know there are questions marks over how he'd do in Asia in the long term. Definite top 20 but not quite top 10 imo.

Are there - is bringing up Lindwall's record in Asia a regular thing? He did ok in the few Tests he got in Asia, particularly given that they came at the end of his career from the ages of 35 to 38.

 

[Coronis]

Are there - is bringing up Lindwall's record in Asia a regular thing? He did ok in the few Tests he got in Asia, particularly given that they came at the end of his career from the ages of 35 to 38.

Better than Lillee.

 

[trundler]

Are there - is bringing up Lindwall's record in Asia a regular thing? He did ok in the few Tests he got in Asia, particularly given that they came at the end of his career from the ages of 35 to 38.

I don't see how his record in Asia is relevent at all. Hobbs never played in Asia and Lindwall only got a chance at the end of his career. He did well but even if he hadn't his record there would be irrelevant as playing in the 50s isn't comparable to what modern touring bowlers face in Asia. Pretty sure Pakistan still had matting wickets at the time too.

 

[BazBall21]

Yeah because India were pretty useless against pace with the exception of Hazare. Wes Hall was obviously not as good as Lindwall and he destroyed India in their own backyard.

 

[trundler]

Yeah because India were pretty useless against pace with the exception of Hazare. Wes Hall was obviously not as good as Lindwall and he destroyed India in their own backyard.

Newer teams always struggle against pace and mystery spin just because they're novel.

 

[The Sean]

I don't see how his record in Asia is relevent at all. Hobbs never played in Asia and Lindwall only got a chance at the end of his career. He did well but even if he hadn't his record there would be irrelevant as playing in the 50s isn't comparable to what modern touring bowlers face in Asia. Pretty sure Pakistan still had matting wickets at the time too.

Yeah, agreed - it just seemed a strange thing to bring up as though it's something which is routinely held against Lindwall when judging him. I don't recall that ever having been the case.

 

[OverratedSanity]

He was being sarcastic

 

[The Sean]

He was being sarcastic

Ha, I completely missed that. If that's the case then I owe Slifer an apology!

 

[Slifer]

Are there - is bringing up Lindwall's record in Asia a regular thing? He did ok in the few Tests he got in Asia, particularly given that they came at the end of his career from the ages of 35 to 38.

I was being facetious......

 

[The Sean]

I was being facetious......

Sorry, I'm a bit slow! Fair play.

 

[shortpitched713]

Shades of Wasim Akram I'd say, in that they were both not quite good enough with the bat to be considered genuine bowling all-rounders, but also better than handy lower order players like Marshall or Warne.

As bowlers, I'd put Wasim a bit further ahead, but I do rate Lindwall.

 

[Patience and Accuracy+Gut]

Anywhere from top 8-12 fast bowler is fine.I tend to have him in the top 10.

Without 2nd World War,might have been couple of spots higher.

 

[Line and Length]

Rated 12 on the CW pace bowler rankings.

I recall Lindwall's action being called 'classic' and one that was used to coach young bowlers.