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The ball hit a helmet, left on the ground by the fielding side and then [the ball]went to the boundary?
No I think it means that they would get the four as well, judging by Law 42.17c (ii).Crazy Sam said:Law 41.2
Fielding the ball
A fielder may field the ball with any part of his person but if, while the ball is in play he wilfully fields it otherwise,
(a) the ball shall become dead and 5 penalty runs shall be awarded to the batting side. See Law 42.17 (Penalty runs). The ball shall not count as one of the over.
(c) When 5 penalty runs are awarded to the batting side, under either Law 2.6 (Player returning without permission) or Law 41 (The fielder) or under 3, 4, 5, 9 or 13 above, then
(i) they shall be scored as penalty extras and shall be in addition to any other penalties.
(ii) they shall not be regarded as runs scored from either the immediately preceding delivery or the following delivery, and shall be in addition to any runs from those deliveries.
(iii) the batsmen shall not change ends solely by reason of the 5 run penalty.
I think that all means that only the 5 penalty runs are counted, because it is not counted as an actual ball in the over.
It will just be 5 penalty runs (extras), as there is no way of asserting how many runs the batsman would have scored had the helmet not been there.James90 said:What if the batsman got a bottom edge, past the keeper and into the helmet, or the fielding side were forgetful and left the helmet near the bowler at the other end, the batsman creams a straight drive into the helmet. Goes the batsman get 5 or does penalty runs get five?
Five penalty runs are awarded as extras whenever the ball hits the helmet, it's as simple as that. They are counted as extras (not byes or leg-byes, but as penalty runs) and are not awarded to the batsman.Beleg said:James,
the quote I posted shows pretty clearly that the position where the helmet is placed doesn't matter. As long as a live ball hits a helmet, whether inadvertantly or deliberately, runs are awarded. If the batsman touched it then the runs go to him otherwise they are awarded as byes/leg-byes.
I don't see where penalty runs come into play in this.
Not flawed, just outdated.Beleg said:Right. Seems the website I picked the info from is flawed.