If you want to find a 'just enough to get the edge' bowler find footage of Titmus, Illingworth or Emburey. Ashwin generally turns his stock ball far more than they did.Yep he isnt. Hes just a lot of variety- off break, arm ball, carrom, etc, subtle variations enough to get the edge.
when were they a popular breed in test cricket unless you go back to ancient times?Kumble was from that era and didnt spin the ball big. must be just the era/pitches isnt conducive to big spin bowling and more 'subtle' variations. For example, leg spinners in the current era usually get carted around..Hardly any of them - they are a dead breed in test cricket.
Have you even seen Ashwin bowl? He barely spins it unless it's a very helpful surface. He's successful due to subtle variations in speed, trajectory and use of the carrom ball. Which also barely turns.Ashwin and Lyon spin it quite a bit, but not in Swann, Chauhan or Powar territory.
It would definitely be the obvious answer if things had really changed much. I don't think they have.This is the obvious answer. Surprised it has taken until the second page.
Big spinning deliveries miss the stumps.
Spinners bowl quicker and at the stumps/pads.