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What are the chances of reverse swing?

Furball

Evil Scotsman
I think Mr.Daniel Vettori disagrees.
He didn't whine about it though.

When no-one was getting the white ball to swing, Vettori was entitled to go to the match referee to make sure nothing dodgy was going on after Gul suddenly got the ball to talk.

The match referee informed Vettori that he had no concerns, which Vettori accepted.
 

Cruxdude

International Debutant
He didn't whine about it though.

When no-one was getting the white ball to swing, Vettori was entitled to go to the match referee to make sure nothing dodgy was going on after Gul suddenly got the ball to talk.

The match referee informed Vettori that he had no concerns, which Vettori accepted.
I am not familiar with the incident but if Vettori went to the match referee just because Gul got it to reverse swing earlier than his bowlers and with no proof, that is pretty poor form. The match referee will inform if anything dodgy happened, you don't go and check just because the other guy got it to swing.
 

Furball

Evil Scotsman
I am not familiar with the incident but if Vettori went to the match referee just because Gul got it to reverse swing earlier than his bowlers and with no proof, that is pretty poor form. The match referee will inform if anything dodgy happened, you don't go and check just because the other guy got it to swing.
In a T20 tournament where no-one is getting the white ball to swing and Umar Gul is suddenly getting the ball reversing after 13 overs, Vettori's perfectly entitled to ask the question.
 

smalishah84

The Tiger King
I am not familiar with the incident but if Vettori went to the match referee just because Gul got it to reverse swing earlier than his bowlers and with no proof, that is pretty poor form. The match referee will inform if anything dodgy happened, you don't go and check just because the other guy got it to swing.
Agreed

In a T20 tournament where no-one is getting the white ball to swing and Umar Gul is suddenly getting the ball reversing after 13 overs, Vettori's perfectly entitled to ask the question.
A lot of things are perfectly fine (including excessive appealing, some would say even sledging, not walking when you know its out and the umpire makes a mistake) but it does reflect poor spirit.
 

vcs

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Agreed



A lot of things are perfectly fine (including excessive appealing, some would say even sledging, not walking when you know its out and the umpire makes a mistake) but it does reflect poor spirit.
Agree.
 

Migara

International Captain
In a T20 tournament where no-one is getting the white ball to swing and Umar Gul is suddenly getting the ball reversing after 13 overs, Vettori's perfectly entitled to ask the question.
No he isn't. That shows he has not seen people doing it or having ulterior motives.
Even a relatively new ball can be reverse swung if bowled at right pace. Malinga gets it to go around 15 overs, and he gets banana inswing even in T20s. Gul getting it to swing in 13th over is nothing extra ordinary.
 

pup11

International Coach
I think Vettori went a bit too far there, you have umpires out there on the ground who check the ball on regular intervals to see if it has been tampered with and also not to forget that even if an umpire fails to notice anything wrong with the ball, these days its still pretty hard to tamper with the ball in front of all these cameras without getting noticed.
 

turnstyle

State 12th Man
Can't remember if this has been asked before, but how do they make the ball 34 overs old without it getting 34 overs of filth all over it? Nets?
 

Migara

International Captain
They use a sand papered white ball, which is filth IMO. Better to use two balls at each end, and best exponents of reverse swing will get it swinging in 40 - 50 over time (which means each ball is 20 - 25 overs old). It will give extra bit of seam movement and will allow to re-establish tha balance between bat and ball in ODIs, which are becoming a run-orgy.
 

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