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Agreed - not even remotely close.FaaipDeOiad said:Bradman. The degree to which he dominated all opposition never has and never will be repeated. The greatest cricketer of all time without question.
Saying he isn't is like saying Pele isn't the greatest footballer ever because he wasn't the greatest sweeper ever seen. Bradman is so far ahead of the pack in all respects with regard to his discipline, I don't see how anyone could question his status as the greatest ever player.C_C said:Bradman was the greatest batsman. Not the greatest cricketer. Sobers had the level of mastery in ALL disciplines of cricket that no one has matched ever since.
Saying that Bradman is the greatest cricketer, since he is the greatest batsman, is like saying Ivanisevic is the greatest tennis player, since he is probably the greatest server tennis has ever seen.
Err...pele was an allround footy player and the only one who can challenge him as a total footy player is DiStefano. Pele was decent back in the field and mindboggling as center/striker/sweeper.Saying he isn't is like saying Pele isn't the greatest footballer ever because he wasn't the greatest sweeper ever seen. Bradman is so far ahead of the pack in all respects with regard to his discipline, I don't see how anyone could question his status as the greatest ever player.
The greatest ever player in a sport is the one who excelled the most above his competitors, the one who had the biggest impact on the performance of his team, the one who, quite simply, you would pick in your team before anyone else.C_C said:The greatest ever player in a sport is the one who has the greatest mastery OVERALL in the said sport.
As such, Gary Sobers and Imran Khan slots in ahead of any specialist batsman or bowler...
Sobers overall was a superior cricketer than Bradman was.....
Aye.The greatest ever player in a sport is the one who excelled the most above his competitors, the one who had the biggest impact on the performance of his team, the one who, quite simply, you would pick in your team before anyone else
Flintoff would be nowhere close as a bowler but overall, yes, he would impact the game just as much as this hypothetical bowler and if that was Sobers, he would impact it far more.But, this is akin to saying that if England suddenly picked a bowler who took 500 wickets @ 10, but was a bunny and useless in the field, Flintoff would still be better because he can bat and catch.
Actually, Hobbs was in there and there was no Tendulkar.C_C said:Oh and another thing - Jack Hobbs wasnt in the list, Tendulkar was.
Eh?C_C said:Oh and another thing - Jack Hobbs wasnt in the list, Tendulkar was.
heh? it has nothing to do with a comparison to Ivanisevic as the worlds best server.C_C said:Bradman was the greatest batsman. Not the greatest cricketer. Sobers had the level of mastery in ALL disciplines of cricket that no one has matched ever since.
Saying that Bradman is the greatest cricketer, since he is the greatest batsman, is like saying Ivanisevic is the greatest tennis player, since he is probably the greatest server tennis has ever seen.