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*Unofficial* New Zealand Black Caps Thread
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HeathDavisSpeed
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
3 nightwatchmen in the one over though. Protecting Phillips, I assume.
nzfan
International Vice-Captain
No way, you must be joking... 3 night watchmen? Never heard of that ever.
HeathDavisSpeed
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
3 nightwatchmen, 4 deliveries. Top order batsman has to come in anyway to see off the last 2 deliveries.
Magrat Garlick
Global Moderator
you jut got to love county cricket
HeathDavisSpeed
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
And people were questioning whether Ravindra and Phillips had scored decent runs with their recent Tons.
Flem274*
123/5
My favourite was the Franklin and Jeets days.
"Their bowling has turned a corner guys! They had huge county seasons. Jimmy's back! Jeets is good!"
*1 Plunket Shield later*
"Oh."
nzfan
International Vice-Captain
TBF you're comparing oranges with apples. Both Phillips and Ravindra are good players in PS too. And at NZ A as well. Mainly with the bat
nzfan
International Vice-Captain
I do think they should not start looking at Phillips as a red ball bowler. We will be making the same mistake all over again. Offies unless they are well and truly proper bowlers that have been bowling since their childhood it doesn't work. If they push Phillips for a red ball spot and move Bracewell on they will be doing exactly the same thing they have done so far. Our local scribes had written article on how Bracewell plotted Stokes' dismissal in the first inning, it's cringe worthy. The fact was Stokes wasn't keyed on and played a false shot. It wasn't any sort of brilliance like our writers made it out to be.
I still have time for Ravindra, Ashok, Walker, even Lennox as bowlers as they have bowled right from their young years and must have had reasonably good coaches helping them through. This wicket keepers taking up bowling business because they are bored of wicket keeping is very unique to our set up. Doesn't happen anywhere else in the world where they replace proper spinners with ones that have bowled a season or two as a hobby at the highest level.
Unless this mentality changes drastically we will not have any reasonable spin bowler left in the country.
I still think they have to give Bracewell a go vs Pakistan and see how he goes. Like Darryl Mitchell has surprised us all we can still hope Bracewell is going to be a reasonable force as an offie now that we have invested in him but bottle the expectations a bit.
I still have time for Ravindra, Ashok, Walker, even Lennox as bowlers as they have bowled right from their young years and must have had reasonably good coaches helping them through. This wicket keepers taking up bowling business because they are bored of wicket keeping is very unique to our set up. Doesn't happen anywhere else in the world where they replace proper spinners with ones that have bowled a season or two as a hobby at the highest level.
Unless this mentality changes drastically we will not have any reasonable spin bowler left in the country.
I still think they have to give Bracewell a go vs Pakistan and see how he goes. Like Darryl Mitchell has surprised us all we can still hope Bracewell is going to be a reasonable force as an offie now that we have invested in him but bottle the expectations a bit.
RossTaylorsBox
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
His family paid off the journalists.
nzfan
International Vice-Captain
And that too.... tired of listening to how he's from the Bracewell clan and he's like his uncle John. Big dude, great mits and has cricketing genes blah blah... we all know everything is learned skills. The Coneys, waddles, the old timers they should give it a rest and let Michael Bracewell be Michael for once. He could do without this bull ****.
straw man
Hall of Fame Member
Even nzfan has become cynical, what is the world coming to.
nzfan
International Vice-Captain
Fair enough... already frustrated with the recent results and on top of this the never ending dynasty **** gets thrown all the time. For the best of the player it is not all that important it stunts their growth.
Flem274*
123/5
Not as a bowler after his knee went
Bahnz
Hall of Fame Member
Yeah, but as a batsman he had a good time. He didn't get back into the NZ test team in 2012 just on the basis of fond memories from the good old days.
Immenso
International Vice-Captain
Yes. But quantity also counts. NZ have too little quantity.
The South African pyramid was theoretically almost perfect.( But with political interference)
For Ravindra . He only had 3 FC hundreds, needs to learn how to bat long, second division (in June) is perfect for what he needs.