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To PhD or not to Phd?

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I've never met anyone who loves the process. At best it's a satisfying form of suffering, like running a marathon. At worst it's just suffering.

Though TBF that's the case for almost all jobs.
I don't agree with this unless you mean almost all office jobs.

One of the advantages of doing a job where you're tasked with specific, short term stuff is that once the task is done, it's over and you end the day with a concrete list of stuff you did. Doing a PhD or working in an academic environment generally, I've found I sort of take a nibble at multiple things so it takes days/weeks/months to feel like you've finished something so you miss that feeling.
 

sledger

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I honestly really love my job.

I am probably one of the few people in the world whose job does not feel like "work" to them.

I am basically paid to read/write/talk about topics I find really interesting and would want to immerse myself in regardless of any financial reward.

I am very lucky.
 

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I don't agree with this unless you mean almost all office jobs.

One of the advantages of doing a job where you're tasked with specific, short term stuff is that once the task is done, it's over and you end the day with a concrete list of stuff you did. Doing a PhD or working in an academic environment generally, I've found I sort of take a nibble at multiple things so it takes days/weeks/months to feel like you've finished something so you miss that feeling.
It's 2019, almost all jobs are office jobs.
 

StephenZA

International Coach
I honestly really love my job.

I am probably one of the few people in the world whose job does not feel like "work" to them.

I am basically paid to read/write/talk about topics I find really interesting and would want to immerse myself in regardless of any financial reward.

I am very lucky.
This is the ideal academic position... but unfortunately most of us don't get to this position, just to highly competitive.
 

sledger

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This is the ideal academic position... but unfortunately most of us don't get to this position, just to highly competitive.
Yeah, I am quite lucky in that I am employed at a university where research is encouraged and supported (to some extent anyway), but it is not the be all and end all. Failure to meet a research target here will, at worst, mean you get fewer hours for it, and more teaching instead, rather than being being sacked.

This is a sanction of sorts that I can happily live with, as I am far too laid back to have the drive or desire to be a super famous researcher or whatever, and I really like teaching anyway (plus the most amount of teaching you can realistically be given is about 18 hours a week at an absolute max, which is still about half the hours someone working in an office would do each week).
 

StephenZA

International Coach
I do envy you because I do quite enjoy lecturing... the little I`ve done.

But I have no chance of staying with my current university (not that I really want to) and my research record is to poor for another university to really consider me. Maybe if I do a postdoc I can correct my publication record.
 

sledger

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Teaching can also be a massive ball-ache tbf. If you end up with a crap group, or are lecturing on a topic you hate or is just generally dire, it is no fun at all. Sometimes it is like pulling teeth to get anyone to say anything, and you have a room of people staring at you as if they hate your guts. Marking can also be a very demoralising experience. And the admin is inevitably a massive drudge as well.

So it's by no means a completely utopian existence. But it certainly has far fewer downsides than more or less literally anything else I could imagine doing.

But hang in there lad. I know how bleak an existence it can feel. But from what I know of you on here, you are an articulate and thoughtful chap. It will work out.
 

Teja.

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I've never met anyone who loves the process. At best it's a satisfying form of suffering, like running a marathon. At worst it's just suffering.

Though TBF that's the case for almost all jobs.
This is very true haha.

I joined a law firm thinking it’d be absolutely great because I love law/policy but three years in it’s actually like signing up to be work in the kitchen in a restaurant with no priors because you love eating food.
 
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Kirkut

State Captain
I honestly really love my job.

I am probably one of the few people in the world whose job does not feel like "work" to them.

I am basically paid to read/write/talk about topics I find really interesting and would want to immerse myself in regardless of any financial reward.

I am very lucky.
Right up in Maslow's Hierarchy
 

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