The legacy of Chris Cairns

[bagapath]

if that is the case, doesn't tarnish his legacy at all imo

it absolutely does, even if one had only fixed a backyard game. you keep any sporting encounter absolutely clean of corruption or it is tarnished irreversibly. no third option.

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

I regularly used to fix backyard games by deliberately getting out so I could go inside and watch Dragonball Z.

 

[Zinzan]

Flintoff at his peak was a better batsman and bowler, but he had a lot of mediocrity outside it. Cairns maintained a decent standard more-or-less throughout his career.

No version of Flintoff was a better Test batsman than Cairns circa 1998-2004, even if he did embarrass you guys in 2005.

Flintoff's peak bowling you possibly have an argument.

 

[andruid]

He broke the glass ceiling for Bits and pieces cricketers like Jacob Oram and Ravi Bopara

 

[Zinzan]

Very sad & bleak prognosis btw. Match fixing or not, still a hero of mine growing up, and guilty or not, I won't forget the joy I got in watching him.

 

[The Hutt Rec]

Pretty sure there was a Cairns vs Flintoff thread at some stage, wasn't there?

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Pretty sure there was a Cairns vs Flintoff thread at some stage, wasn't there?

Currently standing at 12 votes each.

Andrew Flintoff vs Chris Cairns

Who was the better all round cricketer for you.

www.cricketweb.net

 

[Burgey]

did he have a heart attack? the report says he is on life support...

I think they were saying he had an aortic aneurysm let go or something.

 

[thierry henry]

No version of Flintoff was a better Test batsman than Cairns circa 1998-2004, even if he did embarrass you guys in 2005.

Flintoff's peak bowling you possibly have an argument.

Was there ever a time where Flintoff turned looking dangerous into genuine results with the ball? Cos Cairns definitely took bags of wickets at times.

 

[Shri]

Flintoff at his peak was a better batsman and bowler, but he had a lot of mediocrity outside it. Cairns maintained a decent standard more-or-less throughout his career.

flintoff retired at 31

he could have become a legend if he had had a full career or at least another 5 years like everyone else

 

[sledger]

Flintoff a better bowler by far. And not a match-fixer. Wins hands down.

 

[thierry henry]

That thing about Cairns maintaining a decent standard is laughable lol. It’s just another way he is comparable to Flintoff. He spent almost a decade being a mega-talented disappointment before a relatively brief period of delivering on the talent.

 

[thierry henry]

Is Flintoff the modern Sobers of bowling? Only guys to take 2.something wickets a test at an average of heaps and everyone reckons they were gun

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Was there ever a time where Flintoff turned looking dangerous into genuine results with the ball? Cos Cairns definitely took bags of wickets at times.

Probably the one Ashes series he'll dine out on forever.

 

[thierry henry]

Probably the one Ashes series he'll dine out on forever.

He took 24 wickets at 27. It was a moderately good series of bowling. Gotta be the most underwhelming whelming performance in sports history.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Is Flintoff the modern Sobers of bowling? Only guys to take 2.something wickets a test at an average of heaps and everyone reckons they were gun

Not a great comparison that. Sobers taking 2.something wickets as a batting all rounder is actually kind of nuts.

 

[thierry henry]

Cairns took 19 wickets at 21 vs England in 1999, and that was just a relatively high profile series as opposed to a particularly prolific one

 

[thierry henry]

Not a great comparison that. Sobers taking 2.something wickets as a batting all rounder is actually kind of nuts.

The thing you said doesn’t seem to be related to the thing I said

 

[OverratedSanity]

The thing you said doesn’t seem to be related to the thing I said

Why so? Sobers was a batsman first. So taking more than 2 per match is impressive.

 

[thierry henry]

Anyway this probably isn’t the right thread to accurately dunk on Sobers’ bowling or Flintoff’s aSheS.

Seriously hope Cairns pulls through. Major childhood hero.