South Africa team selection

[SeamUp]

CSA in talks with two countries over more Test cricket in 2023, split Proteas squads also an option | Sport

Cricket South Africa is talking to two countries over the possibility of securing more Test cricket for the Proteas in 2023.

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Proof in the pudding and eating thereof... and all that.

From West Indies, Zimbabwe, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Pakistan you imagine for timing of the year and interest to play us.

Had heard that there was an A tour to Windies in the pipeline but no idea if that is seperate to this.

 

[SeamUp]

Talking 50-over cricket.

Many say the 15-man squad chosen for the Netherlands ODIs will be our WC squad baring in mind Keshav Maharaj's injury & Bjorn Fortuin coming in.


Quinton de Kock, Temba Bavuma, Rassie van der Dussen, Aiden Markram, Heinrich Klaasen, Dave Miller, Reeza Hendricks
Marco Jansen, Wayne Parnell
Kagiso Rabada, Anrich Nortje, Lungi Ngidi, Sisanda Magala
Bjorn Fortuin, Tabraiz Shamsi


All players are 30+ bar Markram (29), Rabada (28), Ngidi (27), Jansen (23) this year so it will have enough experience of sub-continent conditions. Plus likely a last WC for a number of those over 30.

Only real doubts to be picked being vd Dussen, Hendricks, Parnell, Magala, Fortuin & Shamsi (who really has been poor for a year at least).

Back-ups?

Tony de Zorzi, Ryan Rickelton, Jordan Hermann, Matt Breetzke, Tristan Stubbs, Dewald Brevis, Donovan Ferreira
Wiaan Mulder, Andile Phehlukwayo
George Linde, Senuran Muthusamy
Gerald Coetzee, Eathan Bosch, Lizaad Williams

Outside of those for the last spot you probably looking for impact seamer all-rounder in Evan Jones, a leg-spinner which is too soon for Caleb Seleka but has good potential & maybe another left-armer/extreme speed in Nandre Burger.

 

[Kenneth Viljoen]

We do need to find more spinners in white ball cricket , Shamsi needs competition and Fortuin is just a steady Eddie..Also an all rounder ..I hoped Mulder would have nailed this spot by now but for some reason he can't perform with the bat at international level

 

[GoodAreasShane]

Must say @SeamUp being back here is absolutely brilliant news

 

[Nintendo]

We do need to find more spinners in white ball cricket , Shamsi needs competition and Fortuin is just a steady Eddie..Also an all rounder ..I hoped Mulder would have nailed this spot by now but for some reason he can't perform with the bat at international level

Linde is right there and is coming off a fantastic list-A season for his domestic side. I'de be really interested to see what the deal is behind the scenes because him not being in the squad when maharaj is injured is just off. SA are basically saying that he's the fourth choice LOI spinner, best case.

 

[StephenZA]

Talking 50-over cricket.

Many say the 15-man squad chosen for the Netherlands ODIs will be our WC squad baring in mind Keshav Maharaj's injury & Bjorn Fortuin coming in.


Quinton de Kock, Temba Bavuma, Rassie van der Dussen, Aiden Markram, Heinrich Klaasen, Dave Miller, Reeza Hendricks
Marco Jansen, Wayne Parnell
Kagiso Rabada, Anrich Nortje, Lungi Ngidi, Sisanda Magala
Bjorn Fortuin, Tabraiz Shamsi


All players are 30+ bar Markram (29), Rabada (28), Ngidi (27), Jansen (23) this year so it will have enough experience of sub-continent conditions. Plus likely a last WC for a number of those over 30.

Only real doubts to be picked being vd Dussen, Hendricks, Parnell, Magala, Fortuin & Shamsi (who really has been poor for a year at least).

Back-ups?

Tony de Zorzi, Ryan Rickelton, Jordan Hermann, Matt Breetzke, Tristan Stubbs, Dewald Brevis, Donovan Ferreira
Wiaan Mulder, Andile Phehlukwayo
George Linde, Senuran Muthusamy
Gerald Coetzee, Eathan Bosch, Lizaad Williams

Outside of those for the last spot you probably looking for impact seamer all-rounder in Evan Jones, a leg-spinner which is too soon for Caleb Seleka but has good potential & maybe another left-armer/extreme speed in Nandre Burger.

Maharaj hopefully will be back. I would not take Parnell, Magala, Fortuin and/or Shamsi. Think Linde needs to go. I would take Stubbs and possible Ferreira. Also Coetzee (pace is king!) and would seriously consider Muthusamy.

 

[Bahseph]

Can Shamsi be trusted to regularly give you 10 in an ODI these days?? I don't think so. There is a reason Maharaj is now the number one spinner across formats. Fortuin is a perfectly good T20 spinner but I don't know if he is good enough to he the lead spinner in an ODI.

If they aren't going to pick Linde (and that seams the case),then surely they have to go with Muthusamy at 7 by process of elimination? Markram can't be asked to give you 10 overs every game. Subrayen or Harmer as a punt??

 

[Marius]

Talking 50-over cricket.

Many say the 15-man squad chosen for the Netherlands ODIs will be our WC squad baring in mind Keshav Maharaj's injury & Bjorn Fortuin coming in.


Quinton de Kock, Temba Bavuma, Rassie van der Dussen, Aiden Markram, Heinrich Klaasen, Dave Miller, Reeza Hendricks
Marco Jansen, Wayne Parnell
Kagiso Rabada, Anrich Nortje, Lungi Ngidi, Sisanda Magala
Bjorn Fortuin, Tabraiz Shamsi


All players are 30+ bar Markram (29), Rabada (28), Ngidi (27), Jansen (23) this year so it will have enough experience of sub-continent conditions. Plus likely a last WC for a number of those over 30.

Only real doubts to be picked being vd Dussen, Hendricks, Parnell, Magala, Fortuin & Shamsi (who really has been poor for a year at least).

Back-ups?

Tony de Zorzi, Ryan Rickelton, Jordan Hermann, Matt Breetzke, Tristan Stubbs, Dewald Brevis, Donovan Ferreira
Wiaan Mulder, Andile Phehlukwayo
George Linde, Senuran Muthusamy
Gerald Coetzee, Eathan Bosch, Lizaad Williams

Outside of those for the last spot you probably looking for impact seamer all-rounder in Evan Jones, a leg-spinner which is too soon for Caleb Seleka but has good potential & maybe another left-armer/extreme speed in Nandre Burger.

Welcome back Grant

 

[Dendarii]

I found this article about Linde not being picked to go to New Zealand last year.

https://www.sacricketmag.com/why-proteas-spinner-didnt-get-picked/

There are two slightly conflicting stories there, with Mpitsang saying it was because Linde was getting married and Linde saying that he would rather miss the tour so that he could play domestically rather sit on the sidelines. Those don't necessarily contradict each other as it could have also been that Linde wasn't prepared to postpone his wedding if he was only going to be carrying drinks, although if that's the case you have to ask why a professional cricketer schedules their wedding during the cricket season.

I can see how that might have rubbed the selectors the wrong way, but maybe things can be patched up with the new regime. We've had Bedingham committing himself to South Africa, so maybe there's hope for Linde to return to the side.

 

[Nintendo]

I found this article about Linde not being picked to go to New Zealand last year.

https://www.sacricketmag.com/why-proteas-spinner-didnt-get-picked/

There are two slightly conflicting stories there, with Mpitsang saying it was because Linde was getting married and Linde saying that he would rather miss the tour so that he could play domestically rather sit on the sidelines. Those don't necessarily contradict each other as it could have also been that Linde wasn't prepared to postpone his wedding if he was only going to be carrying drinks, although if that's the case you have to ask why a professional cricketer schedules their wedding during the cricket season.

I can see how that might have rubbed the selectors the wrong way, but maybe things can be patched up with the new regime. We've had Bedingham committing himself to South Africa, so maybe there's hope for Linde to return to the side.

Are we sure beddingham is down to new management and not England? Beddingham is a middle order bat and right now it looks like there gonna have to either bench there previous redball player of the home summer, a guy averaging 100 in test cricket or one of the best keeper bats in the world. Maybe beddingham saw that and figured it would be easier getting a game for SA then ENG?

 

[Bahseph]

I think I commented at one stage that Parnell has been okay since his comeback. I now remember why he was so frustrating. There is no way we will win any tournament with him walking out at 7 (T20s or ODIs). Him and Phelukwayo will always be tremendous let downs to me.

 

[Dendarii]

Are we sure beddingham is down to new management and not England? Beddingham is a middle order bat and right now it looks like there gonna have to either bench there previous redball player of the home summer, a guy averaging 100 in test cricket or one of the best keeper bats in the world. Maybe beddingham saw that and figured it would be easier getting a game for SA then ENG?

It could be that, although one of the reasons we didn't know where he stood was that the old selectors never spoke to him. So maybe it is a coincidence and I'm placing a bit too much faith in the new management, but I still think there's something in it.

 

[Socerer 01]

Are we sure beddingham is down to new management and not England? Beddingham is a middle order bat and right now it looks like there gonna have to either bench there previous redball player of the home summer, a guy averaging 100 in test cricket or one of the best keeper bats in the world. Maybe beddingham saw that and figured it would be easier getting a game for SA then ENG?

its the timing of his announcement. Brook is playing for a while now so he could have announced it earlier under previous regime too if that was reason

 

[Nintendo]

its the timing of his announcement. Brook is playing for a while now so he could have announced it earlier under previous regime too if that was reason

Yeah but brooks has only really been a guaranteed lock for what, two months? Before the Pak tour he was just a guy who had an unreal county season. Making the announcement your gonna go back to SA after getting partway into the qualification period for england is a big call and sunk cost fallacy would play a huge part.

 

[Socerer 01]

Yeah but brooks has only really been a guaranteed lock for what, two months? Before the Pak tour he was just a guy who had an unreal county season. Making the announcement your gonna go back to SA after getting partway into the qualification period for england is a big call and sunk cost fallacy would play a huge part.

could be a mix of both in reality. New management explores available players, sees or gets to know Beddingham’s situation who may or may not have been exploring the possibility from his own side and they mutually decide on it

 

[Kenneth Viljoen]

The SA invitational side beat the Netherlands in the warm up game by 3 wickets

Eathan Bosch 3/20 really impressed

SAInv vs NED, Netherlands in South Africa 2021/22-2022/23, Tour Match at Pretoria, March 28, 2023 - Full Scorecard

Get cricket scorecard of Tour Match, SAInv vs NED, Netherlands in South Africa 2021/22-2022/23 at LC de Villiers Oval, Pretoria dated March 28, 2023.

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[MrPrez]

SeamUp is back!

 

[Stefan9]

Academy intake

 

[Kenneth Viljoen]

Why is Joshua Richards still seen as an academy player , he's 25 this year he should be pushing for national team selection , unnecessary stalling of a career

 

[Dendarii]

Proteas women's legend Ismail retires from international cricket | Sport

Proteas Women's stalwart Shabnim Ismail on Wednesday announced her retirement from all forms of international cricket.

www.news24.com

There doesn't appear to be anything controversial about the retirement, and at 34 she probably was in the tail end of her career. But a massive loss to the side.