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should sledging be banned?
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Maison
Cricket Spectator - 1st Warning
well
no it shouldnt be banned... its fun to see.
but in some cases it could be seen as 'bad sportsmanship'
anyone remember wat Mcgrath said to Sarwan a few yrs back??????
"...so whats Laras c*** taste like?" (along the lines of that) - mcgrath
"..well your wife should know" - sar
sigh
no it shouldnt be banned... its fun to see.
but in some cases it could be seen as 'bad sportsmanship'
anyone remember wat Mcgrath said to Sarwan a few yrs back??????
"...so whats Laras c*** taste like?" (along the lines of that) - mcgrath
"..well your wife should know" - sar
sigh
Tom Halsey
International Coach
luckyeddie said:
andyc
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Er... the most common story is that it went like thisMaison said:well
no it shouldnt be banned... its fun to see.
but in some cases it could be seen as 'bad sportsmanship'
anyone remember wat Mcgrath said to Sarwan a few yrs back??????
"...so whats Laras c*** taste like?" (along the lines of that) - mcgrath
"..well your wife should know" - sar
sigh
McGrath: What's Lara like in bed?
Sarwan: Why don't you ask your wife?
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Western sports aren't necessarily entertaining.adharcric said:
thierry henry
International Coach
Sledging isn't "part of the game", not a natural or necessary one, at least. I'm pretty sure that in past eras cricket really was a more gentlemanly game than it is now, and I'm quite convinced that the level of sledging that currently exists is a modern phenomenon. I don't really see the need tbh.
thierry henry
International Coach
It is true though. Sledging existed but not to anywhere near the current extent. Infact I dearsay the absense of extended follow throughs and verbal attacks on batsman contributed to the much faster over rates.
Lillian Thomson
Hall of Fame Member
Should sledging be banned? Yes.
Top_Cat
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That's pretty funny coming from someonw with a username of Lillian Thomson.
Ban sledging? GOOD LUCK. Players will always find a way. I just get in my head that scene in the Simpsons where Homer tells Lisa and Bart to stop bickering at the table and they start doing sign language at the table, Lisa saying "You drive me crazy."
I could just imagine Ranjan Madugalle saying "And no pantamomines either!"
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
People talking about the off-field comments and how they don't like it, honestly someone tell me that after what Smith said about Warne and Ponting you didn't feel even a little bit more excited when Smith was out there to bat facing Warne.
I generally almost always look forward (at different levels of course) to an international cricket series and was already looking forward to SA vs. Aus, but there's no doubt in my mind that the verbal jousting between everyone involved in the SA and Aus series added that much more excitement and anticipation before the series began. I'm sure I'm not alone.
Regarding sledging, I'm fine with it. It may not be 'part of cricket' but its a part of competitive cricket. It also is a test of the best batsman, and who can handle the pressure, whose temperament is good enough etc. If a fast bowler begins to get in the face of the batsman, and the batsman blood starts boiling and he tries to smash the ball all around the park every ball and goes out, the bowler has obviously one and its a glaring fault in the batsman's temperament. Whereas you have champions who don't let it bother them, or maybe even are fueled by it and go up a level. I definitely believe many top batsman welcome it.
Plus, from a batsman's perspective as if there isn't anything more satisfying than getting sprayed by the bowler for leaving a few balls in a row or playing and missing, and then next ball you slap him for 4. Something needs to be said after that happens, whether it be club level or international level!
I generally almost always look forward (at different levels of course) to an international cricket series and was already looking forward to SA vs. Aus, but there's no doubt in my mind that the verbal jousting between everyone involved in the SA and Aus series added that much more excitement and anticipation before the series began. I'm sure I'm not alone.
Regarding sledging, I'm fine with it. It may not be 'part of cricket' but its a part of competitive cricket. It also is a test of the best batsman, and who can handle the pressure, whose temperament is good enough etc. If a fast bowler begins to get in the face of the batsman, and the batsman blood starts boiling and he tries to smash the ball all around the park every ball and goes out, the bowler has obviously one and its a glaring fault in the batsman's temperament. Whereas you have champions who don't let it bother them, or maybe even are fueled by it and go up a level. I definitely believe many top batsman welcome it.
Plus, from a batsman's perspective as if there isn't anything more satisfying than getting sprayed by the bowler for leaving a few balls in a row or playing and missing, and then next ball you slap him for 4. Something needs to be said after that happens, whether it be club level or international level!
Lillian Thomson
Hall of Fame Member
There's nothing wrong with the bowler and batsmen exchanging a bit of banter after a delivery - eg Randall and Lillee in the Centenary Test. But I don't think the constant baiting of the batsmen by the wicketkeeper and close fielders adds anything to the game.Top_Cat said:
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How about outright verbal abuse which both Lillee and Thomson were somewhat prone to back in the day? Certainly Viv RIchards has made comment about racial overtones too but refuses to substantiate this (probably out of fear of litigation).
As for whether it adds anything to the game, it's irrelevent; unless stump microphones pick up on it and alert the umpires or sanction offenders for doing so after the game or the day's play, no-one will know what's being said other than said fielders and their target. It will never be stamped out otherwise. Wishing it be so is pointless. The best batsmen (Lara, Sachin, etc.) ignore it, knowing it's a deliberate attempt to unsettle them.
Anyway, appearances can be deceiving; Andre Nel looks like an angry Jean-Claude Van-Damm and looks like he's shouting abuse at batsmen but from what was replayed on TV by the stump mics, what he was saying was pretty innocent. It just *looked* bad.
Lillian Thomson
Hall of Fame Member
I don't consider the bowler talking briefly to the batsman after a delivery to be sledging. It happens and it's done and dusted in a moment, even if they do it every ball there is still the time it takes for the bowler to return to his mark. What I don't like are the close fielders constant remarks which are done only to put the batsman off. It's gamesmanship bordering on cheating.Top_Cat said:
difficult discussion when there is disagreement about what sledging is.
Its the tactical sledging that I find wrong, especially as where do you draw the line across cultural borders.
As for the newspaper childish trash talk, well I find it hard to believe anyone enjoys that, especially when its so overdone as with australia and south africa. Every remark has lost any point and its pathetic. Is reached name-calling levels for 6-year olds.
If people really need that nonsense to enjoy cricket, well..
But it does seem that in Australia just foul-mouthing something or someone is considered macho and done by "men of strong opinion" but I guess journalists cant get a piece in a australian paper if they dont do it.
Personally I dont know who wants to read say, that "thompson believes the ICC are a waste of space" boring pointless clichees aimed at the easiest target in cricket. A typical "opinion" piece that simply offers the opinion that the ICC are this and that but of course offers no opinion on the issues themselves.
Its the tactical sledging that I find wrong, especially as where do you draw the line across cultural borders.
As for the newspaper childish trash talk, well I find it hard to believe anyone enjoys that, especially when its so overdone as with australia and south africa. Every remark has lost any point and its pathetic. Is reached name-calling levels for 6-year olds.
If people really need that nonsense to enjoy cricket, well..
But it does seem that in Australia just foul-mouthing something or someone is considered macho and done by "men of strong opinion" but I guess journalists cant get a piece in a australian paper if they dont do it.
Personally I dont know who wants to read say, that "thompson believes the ICC are a waste of space" boring pointless clichees aimed at the easiest target in cricket. A typical "opinion" piece that simply offers the opinion that the ICC are this and that but of course offers no opinion on the issues themselves.
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