If i had to pick one id take watson. Can bat anywhere, was good in every position and a quality bowler
Last time I looked Bevan had the highest rpi for a number 6 batsman. That could have been with a couple of minimum runs filters on though. His rpi was around 37 batting 6 IIRC, which is pretty incredible.
Rpi is crap. It's just a worse way of measuring average.Here's the top run scorers batting #6.
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evan has an rpi of 35 in the position. Dhoni has an rpi of 32 batting 6.
Agreed. But people often hold it against Bevan but the truth is that he was the best rpi for a number 6 by a significant margin as well as the best average. High rpi in the lower order is more valuable since runs down the order come in less favourable batting conditions - on a road the top order eat up the majority of the innings. It's only when the top order have been dismissed earlier that the lower order gets to shine.Rpi is crap. It's just a worse way of measuring average.
I’ll the batsmen who average more at a quicker rate thanks. I know you have this massive hard on for Symonds to the extent that you quite ridiculously pick him as an all rounder for an all time eleven but truth is there are better options.So which batsmen cleared the rope more frequently and safely?
I watched him plenty and rate him highly. Aussie ATG I'd agree with.......World ATG, nah.Anyone who thinks putting Symonds in an ATG side or that he's being overrated ITT clearly didn't see enough of him play
He'd almost be my first picked for an ATG side out of Australians. McGrath and Gilchrist the only other 2 that might pip him.
Of course it's subjective, I would definitely have him an World ATG side. He's worth more than Jayasuriya IMO, when you can have better openers. Even without his freakish fielding I'd have him in there.I watched him plenty and rate him highly. Aussie ATG I'd agree with.......World ATG, nah.
I disagree Watson was a better player. Definitely a better bowler but Symonds was a better batsman and fielder. Symonds was also asked to generally play a more difficulty role. He scored his hundreds coming in after early wickets but he'd also often have to wait until the 40th or 45th over and come out swinging. He was a good enough bat to bat anywhere from 3 to 6 (probably even open but he was never really tested there).Symonds maybe worth more to a team of your choice but he wasn’t a better player than Jayasurya.
Regarding the OP’s question, Waston was a better player than Symonds.
100% I would.Yeah some definite overating of Symonds by some in this thread. I wouldn't even think it's that close between him and Watson......Watson the better bowler and batsmen by a margin imo.
Only way Symonds makes an ATG side is as a specialist fielder.......and I don't think we're doing that now are we?
I agree Symonds is the best of them, but can't agree that line up would stack up against a stronger batting unit. Much as I love him to bit's, you are going to get laughed out of town naming Paul Collingwood in a World ATG side.100% I would.
In actual fact I reckon a gun fielding combo would go close to beating whatever anyone else can put forward, especially ring and boundary fielders in ODIs.
A middle order of:
would gain the edge in a game over the next best combo you could put together, based entirely on fielding. IMO Symonds was the best of them.