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So you're saying if Symonds was from NZ he'd basically be the first-picked ODI ATG cricketer
A fact that surely shows that he wasn't as good as people are making out then seeing as there are batsmen who could do that.Symonds averaged 29 in Australia and 50 overseas. His game was definitely suited to small grounds where he could clear the rope more frequently and safely.
Which other batsmenA fact that surely shows that he wasn't as good as people are making out then seeing as there are batsmen who could do that.
than Symonds on Australian grounds, if we dont count Gilchrist?could clear the rope more frequently and safely
??Maybe other batsmen were better because they could, you know, modify their game to conditions? There’s a fair few who average more and at a higher strike rate than him.
But if a 4 in a different country is a 2 in Australia that could significantly reduce your average if your game is built around hitting boundaries.I can see your logic stephen but I'm not sure it's the truth. Symonds post-2003 was excellent at hitting the ball into gaps and running 2s. I don't know how I would explain his low average in Australia though, but it's a very strange anomaly.
It hurts more than it helps. But it depends on the type of player. Bevan wasn't a slogger, he was a nurdler and placer of the ball so it didn't really hurt him. Dhoni is a bit similar in that, especially later in his career, he chose not to score as fast as he could and it helped protect his average.Has CW arrived at consensus on what batting on lower order does to batting averages? Does it hurt like in case of Yuvraj or Symonds as being said here? Or does it inflate like in case of Dhoni or Bevan? I have seen both kind of arguments being made and that too as if the logic is self evident.
Symonds' average in home games after his breakout 143* was only around 32 so it wasn't far from his historical average to that point.Him playing a lot of home games from 99-03 batting 6-7 with a license to smash it is my theory and I think it's concrete
A lot of useful cameos around that time, a lot of run a ball 30s and 40s but nothing to really boost the average
Last time I looked Bevan had the highest rpi for a number 6 batsman. That could have been with a couple of minimum runs filters on though. His rpi was around 37 batting 6 IIRC, which is pretty incredible.Symonds seemed to bash to the final ball and didn't have many not outs to show for it(talking about the early days of his ODI career)
With Bevan he was more about wicket preservation, I think even in the final overs he'd aim for 1s and 2s every ball over boundaries
Bevans RPI objectively suffered but with averages it can depend on your individual approach