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International Debutant
Two very good bowlers from the 2010s that probably didn’t play as many tests as they should have
not really, it's 113 wickets v 224 wickets, and both relatively late bloomersThis is essentially just Bond vs Kapil again
Same concept but with the dials turned to make it closernot really, it's 113 wickets v 224 wickets, and both relatively late bloomers
not as big or meaningful a gap
The anti-PhilanderI thought he was very effective on pitches that weren't typically helpful to pacers as well.
Philander wasn't really a late bloomer as much as he just wasn't selected in Tests earlier in his career. Harris was properly **** when he was younger.not really, it's 113 wickets v 224 wickets, and both relatively late bloomers
not as big or meaningful a gap
Philander bloomed physically into the well-rounded specimen we know and lovePhilander wasn't really a late bloomer as much as he just wasn't selected in Tests earlier in his career. Harris was properly **** when he was younger.
His career was so brief it hardly matters what happened in the period his career overlapped with Philander.Side by side during their careers, Harris was the better bowler. He was a clear #2 in the world to Steyn. Philander around the top 5.
Mattered a lot to the results column.His career was so brief it hardly matters what happened in the period his career overlapped with Philander.
Making it to the park is pretty important too.Mattered a lot to the results column.
Side by side during their careers, Harris was the better bowler. He was a clear #2 in the world to Steyn. Philander around the top 5.
I agree that Harris was better on a match by match basis. But I think you overlook how insanely good the start of Philanders career was. The friendliness of the the pitches he got early career notwithstanding, he was outperforming Steyn pretty significantly at the start. Here is the date at which they had both played 19 matches, or about 70% of ryan's career. Philander debuted later, and Ryan has picked up only about half as many wickets in the same time. IDK if these stats make Philander the better bowler on a game by game basis in this period (pitches), but he is 100% helping to win more matches.Mattered a lot to the results column.
Harris was bowling seriously well when Ian Bell hit him for 3 match winning centuries in the 2013 Ashes.Ryan Harris was never ranked #1, Philander was. Ryan Harris' peak rating is well below Philander's. What exactly are we going by when we say "peak"? Very likely Philander would have a better peak in similar number of games as whatever peak of Harris you consider.