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Road to the 2011 ODI World Cup

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Meh. "For a 21 year old" doesn't really cut it for me, if you are 21 and playing international cricket, you better be something special else no reason to jump people who have toiled for years in domestic cricket.
He was good enough to perform at the international stage at 19. He isn't delivering the goods at 21 but he is still bowling well for a 21 year old. That shouldn't mean selection in the team but that does hold promise for the future.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Haha, had words to the effect of that pic in my mind as I was typing that post. Often have wondered what might've happened had Vaughan been fit throughout the time between the 2002/03 and 2007 WCs. So many interesting potentially revelatory facts ruined by his injuries. :@ Together with the damaging of England's Test side, which of course is far more important.
 

Kweek

Cricketer Of The Year
in other news :
Cooper, De Boorder recruited by the Dutch
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Rod Lyall
8 March 2010
The Netherlands’ hopes of competing effectively in this season’s Clydesdale Bank 40 League have, it seems, been considerably enhanced by the acquisition of two young batsmen with Dutch passports and first-class experience in Australia and New Zealand.

Dutch interest in South Australia’s former Under-19 international Tom Cooper, now 23, has been known unofficially for some time, and he will now be joined in The Netherlands squad by 24-year-old Otago wicketkeeper-batsman Derek de Boorder.

Given that the Dutch will be without key stars Ryan ten Doeschate and Alexei Kervezee, contracted to Essex and Worcestershire respectively, the likely presence of Cooper and De Boorder in the line-up will give the side’s batting a much stronger basis.

And thanks to a recent ECB ruling, the fact that these players have Dutch passports will mean they can play in addition to any official overseas player the KNCB wishes to bring into the side. They will also be eligible to play in any ODIs, including all the matches in the World Cricket League Division 1 tournament, but not in the first-class Intercontinental Cup.

It is understood that all Topklasse clubs were offered the chance to pick up one of the pair to play in domestic cricket at times when the national squad is not in action, and that Cooper will appear for last year’s finalists VRA Amsterdam, while De Boorder will turn out for Hermes-DVS Schiedam.

VRA have not yet announced who their regular player-coach for 2010 will be, while at Hermes-DVS De Boorder will join fellow-Kiwi Shanan Stewart, who returns to the Schiedam club after a successful initial season there last year.

De Boorder, who began his career with Auckland, moved to Otago in 2007, and has now become a regular member of their side in all forms of the game. He averages 33.76 with the bat in first-class matches, and in one-day games, where he bats at No. 3, he has an average of 20.58.

Indications are that, barring injuries, De Boorder’s role in The Netherlands will be as a specialist batsman: with Atse Buurman having only recently become a regular in the Dutch side, it would be a retrograde step for him to be displaced by a rival from overseas, while Hermes’ regular keeper, Bart Schilperoord, who made his international debut last sseason, would also be unfortunate to lose out to the New Zealander.

It is interesting that De Boorder’s younger brother Andrew (21) is still with Auckland, where he averages 39.30 in first-class cricket and 43.00 in one-day matches. He, however, would not be eligible to play for The Netherlands until February 2011, having last appeared for New Zealand’s Under-19s in 2007.

Cooper made his debut for South Australia in 2008-09, and quickly made his mark with 101 at nearly a run a ball against a NSW attack in Sydney which included Nathan Bracken, Doug Bollinger and Nathan Hauritz. This season, batting at three, he has averaged 30.00 in ten one-day matches, hitting three fifties.

KNCB High Performance Advisor Jeroen Smits confirmed over the weekend that negotiations with both players were close to complete.

‘There are still a few formalities to be finalised,’ Smits said, ‘but we are confident that both players will be available for our first Clydesdale Bank 40 matches on 15 and 16 May.

‘With Ten Doeschate and Kervezee unavailable for that competition, I’m delighted that the selectors, who make the final decisions, will have the possibility of including these players in our squad and, looking further forward, I see them as potentially playing a significant role in our plans for next year’s World Cup.’

‘I am also very grateful to Hermes and VRA,’ Smits added, ‘since they have made it possible for us to bring the two players to The Netherlands.’

The acquisition of Cooper and De Boorder will unquestionably strengthen the Dutch batting line-up, but with bowling spearhead Edgar Schiferli reportedly out for four to six months with the knee injury he sustained in Dubai, it is the attack which now gives rise to some concern.

Ten Doeschate’s seamers will also be missing from the 40 League campaign, and with Mudassar Bukhari manifestly out of form during last month’s tour, the selectors will no doubt be hoping that Mark Jonkman and Berend Westdijk return from the ICC European Academy in Pune in good nick and raring to go.

It would be ideal for the balance of the side if the KNCB could find a pace bowler as their overseas player, but as things stand there doesn’t appear to be one on the horizon.
personally very happy that this has happend and this opportunity to fill the gap RtD and Kervezee will leave in the squad.

oh and tnx Jack ;)
 

Smudge

Hall of Fame Member
Good luck to Derek DB - does a pretty solid job for Otago behind the sticks and looks reasonably compact with the bat.
 

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
in other news :


personally very happy that this has happend and this opportunity to fill the gap RtD and Kervezee will leave in the squad.

oh and tnx Jack ;)
Thx? What did I do?

Weren't the wheels in motion for this well before we spoke?
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
If it helps make them more competitive then that's good news.

Must say it seems odd that they can play ODIs for Holland but not in the Intercontinental Cup - why exactly is that the case?
 

vic_orthdox

Global Moderator
If it helps make them more competitive then that's good news.

Must say it seems odd that they can play ODIs for Holland but not in the Intercontinental Cup - why exactly is that the case?
Probably not the worst thing for the Netherlands anyway. Probably better to use the Interncontinental Cup as a vehicle for development, rather than putting young players out of the side for guys who probably aren't as interested in it and are playing a higher level of cricket.
 

Kweek

Cricketer Of The Year
Thx? What did I do?

Weren't the wheels in motion for this well before we spoke?
You told me during the time you were at the U19 WC, which makes it about 3/4 years ago - don't think anything was in motion, I sorta told 'important' people in dutch cricket he holds a dutch passport :)
 

Julian87

State Captain
1. Brad Haddin
2. Shane Watson
3. Ricky Ponting
4. Michael Clarke
5. Cameron White
6. Michael Hussey
7. ?
8. Nathan Hauritz
9. Mitchell Johnson
10. Brett Lee
11. Doug Bollinger

The 7 is a real toss up. In a perfect world I'd pick Hodge and actually consider batting him that low...or at 5 with White and Hussey sliding down. But that won't happen. Hopes has been ever reliable of late batting 7 but I don't see him being the man in India. Would definitely have Hopes in the squad though. Thought about Smith and although he's had a thrash before I don't really think he is suited to number 7. Marsh opening and Haddin at 7 is worth a real shout but I think Haddin has proved he's just as, if not more capable, opening than Darsh. Ferguson may be back in form but I don't know how valuable he'd be at number 7 in India either. Thinking along the bit part player I'd even consider a Voges/Dussey but I don't like them as front line players. Would probably settle with Warner at 7, NSW have tried it and I think Australia probably should give it a crack soon as well. Haven't had a really, really explosive player in the middle order for a while now.
 

Julian87

State Captain
I also think the selectors should think about a 2nd spinner for the WC squad. And I'm thinking more Doherty than Smith.
 

flibbertyjibber

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Cricket World Cup 2011

Now the 20/20 is over this is the next competition for the shorter version of the game.Just wondered what squad you would all pick for your own country.

For England i'd go with....

Strauss Capt
Kieswetter wkt
Lumb
Pietersen
Morgan
Collingwood
Bresnan
Wright
Broad
Swann
Sidebottom
Anderson
Rashid
Tredwell
Flintoff/Bopara

Having looked long and hard at the squad i am not sure that Flintoff should go.He is injury prone and the 20/20 side were a vibrant fielding side and Flintoff with his injury record would drag that down.I picked Strauss as i presume he will be retained as captain over Collingwood but i would like Lumb and Kieswetter to be given a chance in a longer form of the game this summer as they did well in the 20/20.

Yardy i think will miss out as i am not sure he will be good enough to bowl 10 overs game after game and Rashid could replace him as he is a good fielder too as well as being as good a bat.

No doubt my squad is miles off what it will be and others will pick but it is just a bit of fun.

If there is a similar thread to this somewhere i missed it so just lock this one.
 
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Marcuss

Hall of Fame Member
Yardy wouldn't need to bowl 10 though, it's just in the T20 WC he bowled well enough, most of the time, for us not to need anybody else. Any combination of Yardy, Wright, Collingwood, Pietersen could make up the final set of 10 overs. Not that I think Yardy should be in the squad, just your reason behind him not being there is flawed IMO.

It's in the subcontinent right? Makes it a pretty difficult squad to balance then. Do we go with 2 spinners in the XI and a third in the squad? Or just 2 for the squad, maybe play both , and if one gets injured c'est la vie?
Trott deserves a spot in the 15 doesn't he? Was dumped out of the side pretty harshly IMO.
Davies should also be on the plane if he keeps up his performances for another year.

Gah. Who knows? Fatel could've shed some pounds by then, would give us some nice balance to the side perhaps.
 

weldone

Hall of Fame Member
1. Virender Sehwag
2. Sachin Tendulkar
3. Gautam Gambhir
4. Virat Kohli / Suresh Raina / Yuvraj Singh
5. Virat Kohli / Suresh Raina / Yuvraj Singh
6. Mahendra Singh Dhoni
7. Yusuf Pathan
8. Harbhajan Singh
9. Zaheer Khan
10. Praveen Kumar / Ashish Nehra / RP Singh / Ishant Sharma
11. Pragyan Ojha

On subcontinent pitches, and considering the spin and pace ( :P ) attack that we possess, playing more than 2 pacers may turn out to be a costly mistake.
 
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Himannv

International Coach
Sri Lanka to make it to the finals and underperform magnificiently to claim the runners up spot.
 

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