Yeah but you have a very clear first choice attack, all of whom excel in Aussie conditions but find it difficult to adapt to other conditions and/or other balls. So its a bit of a chicken and egg situation. The others don't get to play enough to make their case and these guys keep conditioning their games for their home conditions.
Very bizarre take. No, Starc's value is that he can make things happen when there's not much on offer for the bowlers. One of those guys, like Johnson, who can take the pitch out of the equation. But he's not accurate or consistent enough to be as big a threat in bowler-friendly conditions.
You saying "bizarre" for no reason is dumb and you should stop.
I said bizarre because it's more polite than saying "that's really dumb and obviously wrong". I was trying to be nice.
You're trying to rile things up, as per PEWS' signature, as is your mo.
being polite to try and not hurt your feelings is trying to "rile things up"? Interesting take
This is also very true. He's possibly the best in the world at getting tailenders out, but it (statistically) papers over how ordinary he is a lot of the time against proper batsman, which is ~90% of the time you are bowling.
I agree he gets many tailenders out but I realy do not think it is lucky as such. Getting tailenders out is as much a required skillset in today's game for bowlers as any other part of it is.
Yep. He bowls a mean bouncer-yorker combo. England in recent years have been hard to beat at home on many occasions mainly because of "troll runs" from Woakes/Curran/Broad etc. It's very valuable to be able to get tailenders out cheaply.
Top of this list? They ain't even on this list. And when talking cricket, we gotta take into account everything but even if its just test, my point stands. How's Bumrah getting in off the back of 14 tests but Morkel aint after a 10+ year career in tests?
If this list doesn't mean that the guys on it are the best of the 21st century, then fair enough boyo!
You mean my comparison between Starc and Johnson...who said one of the best ever? Johnson is so far off being one of the best test bowlers ever it aint even funny.
I think you are getting a bit too serious about a list posted by a single person. I am not sure it is even who he considers the best bowlers, just the most noteworthy ones. Morkel had a better career than many on this list, but there wasnt much noteworthy about his career. Consider the guys with similar averages- broad and anderson (500 club) and johnston (one of the most notewothy peaks). What exactly is there to discuss about morkel? He is a very good bowler that history will forget. Nobody is interested in diacussing Craig Mathews (pretty sure the vast majority of CW people dont remember him, despite the ridiculous repository of knowledge thatthis place is). But most of the regulars on this site remember his contemporary brett shultz, despite him being comparatively valueless in terms of career.
