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Quality control voting thread

mr_mister

mr_mister

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
So, 17 teams in total. We can't get completely fair groups but what can you do. So there will be 2 groups of 6 and 1 of 5 for the first round. top 2 in each group will advance to a final 6.


I apologise for poor formatting as this stuff is not my strong suit at all.

Also if if I accidently made a group of death or lopsided groups my bad. I just went back through the finalised teams from the last page backwards.


So for this round of voting, vote for your top 2 in each group:

GROUP A:

weemanbob:

Jack Hobbs
Trevor Goddard
Kane Williamson
Kevin Pietersen
Bill Edrich
Brian McMillian
Mark Boucher
Jofra Archer
Rangana Herath
Muttiah Muralitharan
Courtney Walsh

srbhkshk:

Sunil Gavaskar
Vinoo Mankad (6)
Ian Bell
Graeme Pollock
Ben Stokes (3)
Adam Gilchrist +
Lance Klusener (7)
Ravindra Jadeja (4)
Pat Cummins (1)
Trent Boult (2)
Nathan Lyon (5)

kingkallis:

Len Hutton /
Graham Gooch /
Frank Worrell / o (c)
Martin Crowe /
Frank Woolley / o
Ian Botham / o
Ian Healy + /
Bruce Yardley o /
Dennis Lillee o
Bill O'Reilly o
Jeff Thomson o

Boybrumby:

Bill Lawry* LHB 5234 runs @ 47.15
Ravi Shastri RHB 3860 @ 35.79; SLA 151 wickets @ 40.97
David Boon RHB 7422 @ 43.66
Jacques Kallis RHB 13,289 @ 55.37; RFM 292 @ 32.65
Mike Hussey RHB 6235 @ 51.53; RM 7 @ 43.71
Andrew Flintoff RHB 3845 @ 31.78; RF 226 @ 32.79
BJ Watling+ RHB 3658 @ 38.51; 231 catches, 8 stumpings
Paul Strang RHB 839 @ 27.06; LB 70 @ 36.03
Hedley Verity RHB 669 @ 20.91; SLA 144 @ 24.38
Joel Garner RHB 672 @ 12.44; RF 259 @ 20.98
Morne Morkel LHB 944 @ 11.65; RF 309 @ 27.67

honestbharani:


Shane Watson
Simon Katich
Wally Hammond (vc)
Michael Bevan
Doug Walters
Rishabh Pant (wk)
Tony Greig ©
Sam Curran
Mitch Starc
Subhash Gupte
Jasprit Bumrah



Nintendo:

1.Virender Sehwag
2.Warren Bardsley
3.Hashim Amla
4.Steven Smith
5.Fawad Alam
6.MS Dhoni +
7.Monty Noble 5
8.Richard Hadlee 1
9.Graeme Swann 4
10.Michael Holding 2
11.Ishant Sharma 3



GROUP B:

Michaelf77777:

Barry Richards
John Wright
Viv Richards (7)
Lindsay Hassett (*)
John R. Reid (6)
Les Ames (+)
Wilfred Rhodes (4)
George Lohmann (1)
Peter Pollock (2)
Ted McDonald (3)
Bishen Bedi (5)


JOJOXI:


Archie MacLaren

Gordon Greenidge

Ian Chappel (c)

Everton Weekes

Larry Gomes

Andy Flower (wk)

Mike Proctor (3)

Ray Lindwall (1)

Fred Titmus (4)

Shane Bond (2)

Stuart MacGill (5)




ataraxia:

1) Arthur Morris /
2) Roy Fredericks /
3) Brian Lara /
4) Neil Harvey /
5) Warwick Armstrong* / o
6) Billy Wade / +
7) Chris Cairns o /
8) John Goddard / o
9) Wasim Akram o /
10) Anil Kumble o
11) Glenn McGrath o


ankitj:

Michael Slater
Sadiq Mohammad
George Headley
Clive Llyod (c)
Steve Waugh
Quinton de Kock (wk)
Alan Davidson (2)
Jack Gregory (3)
Saqlain Mushtaq (5)
Clarrie Grimmet (4)
Curtly Ambrose (1)

stephen:

Herb Sutcliffe (52+)
Justin Langer (44-48)
Mike Gatting (32-36)
Mark Waugh (40-44)
Shivnarine Chanderpaul (48-52)
Shakib Al Hasan (36-40)
Jeff Dujon (<32)
Shaun Pollock (23-27)
Mitchell Johnson (27-31)
Malcolm Marshall (<23)
Harbhajan Singh (>31)

trundler:

Tom Hayward
Geoff Boycott
Clem Hill
Clyde Walcott
Aubrey Faulkner
AB De Villiers+
Richie Benaud
Dan Vettori
Brian Statham
Dale Steyn
Craig McDermott

GROUP C:

mr_mister:

Bob Simpson *
Trevor Bailey 4
Ricky Ponting
Greg Chappell
Aravinda De Silva
Keith Miller 3
Allan Knott +
Andy Roberts 2
Sydney Barnes 1
Arthur Mailey 6
Bhagwat Chandrashekhar 5


Himmanv:

01. Bruce Mitchell
02. Hanif Mohammed
03. David Gower
04. Sachin Tendulkar
05. C.B. Fry
06. Farokh Engineer+
07. Imran Khan*
08. Mark Wood
09. Erapalli Prasanna
10. Shoaib Akhtar
11. Allan Donald

Pothas:

Arthur Shrewsbury
Mark Taylor
Rohan Kanhai
Allan Border
Garry Sobers
Mushtaq Mohammad
Jock Cameron
Vernon Philander
Stuart Broad
Mushtaq Ahmed
Waqar Younis

Teuton:


Desmond Haynes40-44
Alec Stewart36-40
Ken Barrington52+
Peter May (c)44-48
Denis Compton48-52
Jonny Bairstow (wk)32-36
Kapil Dev<32
Shane Warne23-27
Sarfraz Nawaz31+
Fred Trueman<23
Lance Gibbs27-31


Fuller Pilch:

WG Grace *
Victor Trumper
Kumar Sangakkara
Charlie Macartney
Ted Dexter
Michael Clarke
John Waite +
Ryan Harris
Harold Larwood
Abdul Qadir
Neil Adcock
 
ankitj

ankitj

Hall of Fame Member
A: KingKallis, Nintendo
B: Stephen, JOJOXI
C: Himannv, Teuton

Given the nature of the draft, it's very hard to distinguish teams from one another.
 
Himannv

Himannv

International Coach
I think 17 teams is quite a lot to look at anyway. Maybe a head-to-head knockout might have bee easier to vote on although it'd take much longer and there's the issue of having one extra team
 
ankitj

ankitj

Hall of Fame Member
mr_mister said:
I'm starting to think that's just every draft now haha.
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For this draft, you literally could not pick more than a handful of greats in the team. I thought debut chronology draft was relatively easier to vote on.
 
Magrat Garlick

Magrat Garlick

Global Moderator
kingkallis with a transparent attempt for a post-draft get out the vote operation here :ph34r:

that said he has a very strong side. the largest hole is Yardley I guess, countered with seven or eight ATGs.

in group B there are a lot of long tails. stephen doesn't have that and has the best bowling, so I guess I'll swallow my less than impressed face for Langer & Chanders.

group C is imo the strongest despite having only five teams. Tough vote.

a: brumby & kingkallis
b: stephen & trundler
c: pothas & fuller pilch
 
BoyBrumby

BoyBrumby

Englishman
Himannv said:
I think 17 teams is quite a lot to look at anyway. Maybe a head-to-head knockout might have bee easier to vote on although it'd take much longer and there's the issue of having one extra team
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Yeah, was hoping for this too. Perming two from five or six is slightly easier than three from seventeen, but still feels a wee bit too much like homework, tbh.

Anyhoo:

Group A:

Like weeman's top order, great spin attack and decent seam options too, but maybe a bit of a tail issue with Jofra suffering from altitude sickness at #8.

Srbhkshk's top order almost equally impressive, and Stokes, Klusener and Jadeja giving maybe slightly more of a balanced look to the XI. Spin dept not quite as strong as weeman's, possibly, but Jadeja, Lyon & Mankad a very solid unit nonetheless.

Huge kudos to KK for actually fielding Lillee and Thomson as an opening attack and IT Botham, in his cups, is a very decent first change option too. O'Reilly and Yardley (who I briefly considered myself) a decent spin unit too, but maybe a slightly longer tail than one would ideally wish for to be hyper-critical.

HB has a nice depth to his batting and an almost bewildering array of pace options from Dougie Walters's little mediums to Bumrah's toe-crushers, but Gupte looks to be relying on Katich's and Bevan's leftie wrist spin for support, and both a little boom or bust.

Nintendo has a very classic test XI, which I like. 5 specialist batsman (couple or three of whom send down serviceable back up spin), quality keeper/batsman, a proper all-rounder for balance & 4 specialist bowlers, two of whom have serious pretensions to "bowling all-rounder" status. Maybe the only slight flaw is having two offies as his main spin options.

It's a complete toss up, really, but think I'm leaning towards Srbhkshk and Nintendo.

Group B

Loving Jojo's batting depth with Proc at 7, Lindwall at 8 and Fred Titmus (who I really did want) one of the better 9s going. Nice balance with his spinners, the classic leggie and offie combo (I suppose, strictly speaking, an offie and an SLA bowler is the classic combo, but he has two twirlers whose stock ball breaks in the opposite direction to each other, so the effect is the same) and a genuinely rapid new ball pair in Raymond and Shane Bond.

Stephen has an even greater depth if that's possible, with the estimable Marshall coming in as low as 10, and one of the batter opening pairs in Sutcliffe and Langer. Equally rapid opening bowlers, with the added bonus of Johnson's leftie thunderbolts to contrast with MDM's godlike swing too. Gatting a good grab for his cohort too IMHO as I think he's a better batsman than the raw stats would suggest.

Ankitj has probably my favourite middle order: Headley, Lloyd, SR Waugh, de Kock, Davo and Jack Gregory from 3-8 is dreamytime and his bowling doesn't lose much in comparison either.

Trundler has two ATG leg spinning all rounders and Daniel Vettori in at #8 to mitigate for three seamers who perhaps couldn't be relied on for many runs, but will cause problems for any batting line up. Maybe a frontline spinner whose stock delivery turns the other way is maybe all his XI possibly lacks.

Again, so hard and arbitrary but Stephen and ankitj I think.

Group C

Fuller Pilch looks like he really did his homework and might just have my favourite XI in the whole draft.

mr_mister has a nice contrast between his doughty openers and his middle order made up of stroke makers. Any seam attack of Barnes, Miller, Roberts and Bailey is worthy of serious consideration too.

Himannv has 4 genuine quicks, which certainly never did the Windies any harm, but maybe just lacks a bit of batting depth.

As with Nintendo in group A I love the classic look to Teuton's XI, but his seam dept maybe a teeny bit short at this level. Trueman an obvious ATG, but Sarfraz and Kapil Dev maybe not in quite the same bracket. God like spin twins though, but.

Pothas has Sir Garfield, which is always a huge tick, and a lovely mix of seamers in Waqar, Broad jr. and Big Vern. The latter two lengthen the batting pleasingly too. Maybe not quite the spinning options of some of the other XIs, but the two Mushtaqs, Sir Gaz and AB far from dire either.

Fuller Pilch and Pothas, just, I think.
 
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