Ponting vs Kallis, who was better against lateral movement and spin?

[Coronis]

Evidence?

Note: Not including ICC vs Australia match in these. (Though both did not horribly)

In matches they did play together:

In Australia
Ponting: 1071 runs @ 46.57, 5 tons 4 fifties
Kallis: 1169 runs @ 46.76, 3 tons 6 fifties

In South Africa
Ponting: 937 runs @ 46.85, 3 tons 5 fifties
Kallis: 758 @ 39.89, 2 tons 4 fifties

 

[trundler]

If you switched them around in terms of home countries they would both probably have pretty much the same career imo

 

[OverratedSanity]

Note: Not including ICC vs Australia match in these. (Though both did not horribly)

In matches they did play together:

In Australia
Ponting: 1071 runs @ 46.57, 5 tons 4 fifties
Kallis: 1169 runs @ 46.76, 3 tons 6 fifties

In South Africa
Ponting: 937 runs @ 46.85, 3 tons 5 fifties
Kallis: 758 @ 39.89, 2 tons 4 fifties

I dunno, is there a significant difference here statistically to say Ponting was decisively better?

 

[Coronis]

I dunno, is there a significant difference here statistically to say Ponting was decisively better?

I wouldn’t say significant, others might. Just posted the stat.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

If you switched them around in terms of home countries they would both probably have pretty much the same career imo

I guess this means Philander would have the same career if he played for Aus. Rabada too

 

[trundler]

I guess this means Philander would have the same career if he played for Aus. Rabada too

Depends on the strengths of each player.

 

[Adorable Asshole]

Its just something you’re going to have to get used to. It could be a phase - maybe in a couple years people will have moved on. Or it could be as permanent as Jadeja.

I mean I don't mind much since I used to be on the Kallis hate train but thier constant bickering about S/R and how his home average doesn't matter because hocus pocus is getting stale. They need to come up with something new.

 

[trundler]

They need to come up with something new.

Half of your posts are your face/posts "jokes" ffs

 

[BazBall21]

I mean I don't mind much since I used to be on the Kallis hate train but thier constant bickering about S/R and how his home average doesn't matter because hocus pocus is getting stale. They need to come up with something new.

His bowling is more overrated than his batting.

 

[Adorable Asshole]

Half of your posts are your face/posts "jokes" ffs

So just like your posts then

 

[subshakerz]

So just like your posts then

And both your faces.

 

[trundler]

So just like your posts then

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Ponting v Dravid against spin and lateral movement might be closer than this

 

[Prince EWS]

No Ponting vs Kallis thread is complete without the literal Ponting vs Kallis moment.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

none

 

[Prince EWS]

Note: Not including ICC vs Australia match in these. (Though both did not horribly)

In matches they did play together:

In Australia
Ponting: 1071 runs @ 46.57, 5 tons 4 fifties
Kallis: 1169 runs @ 46.76, 3 tons 6 fifties

In South Africa
Ponting: 937 runs @ 46.85, 3 tons 5 fifties
Kallis: 758 @ 39.89, 2 tons 4 fifties

Australia having the better attack does even it up a little bit, but it was mostly only better because of Warne. I do think Ponting was better against pace and bounce, but Kallis was better against seam movement. Not particularly surprisingly given the two countries they were from.

 

[Adorable Asshole]

Australia having the better attack does even it up a little bit, but it was mostly only better because of Warne. I do think Ponting was better against pace and bounce, but Kallis was better against seam movement. Not particularly surprisingly given the two countries they were from.

Isn't SA more pace and bounce friendly than Aus?

 

[Prince EWS]

Isn't SA more pace and bounce friendly than Aus?

Sometimes, sometimes not.

But the point is that it's basically the *only* thing you had to conquer in Aus during Ponting's career, whereas there was also seam movement to counter in SA.

 

[BazBall21]

South Africa is close to a combination of English lateral movement and Australian extra bounce. Has been constantly the toughest place to bat since their readmission. Graveyard for openers.