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Ponting pleads 'give us a break'.....give ME a break !!

Son Of Coco

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
marc71178 said:
Well how else could they fit in the tours?

Because of the month or so it seemed taken up with the World XI waste of time, they had to fit in 2 home series and 2 away series into a relatively short space of time when conditions allow Tests to be played.
I think our home series started the same time as usual, so there wasn't really any cramming in of matches except for the fact that they played a lot of games in a row in SA and Bangladesh, which I assume was always the plan anyway. The home series was business as usual. The Superseries really just added up to more cricket.
 

Slats4ever

International Vice-Captain
andyc said:
I think they're pretty justified in their complaints. Yes, they have a big break coming up, but that break should be spread out in between individual tests or series, rather than having 10 tests in two months and then having a three month break.
it's called the weather..

Look at the pro baseballers in the states... Then that might shut ponting up
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Son Of Coco said:
I think our home series started the same time as usual, so there wasn't really any cramming in of matches except for the fact that they played a lot of games in a row in SA and Bangladesh, which I assume was always the plan anyway. The home series was business as usual. The Superseries really just added up to more cricket.
In short - because of 2 needless series (World XI and Bangladesh) Australia have been forced to play more than they need have done.
 

Dick Rockett

International Vice-Captain
It's all very well for all of us to sit here and pass judgement on Ponting, and every other cricketer (or in fact sportsman) who dares to pop his head above the parapet and complain about being overworked. It's not very well for any of us ordinary folk to be comparing what Ponting does to what we do. There are a number of reasons:

Travel. While you or I might enjoy going away for a week, a month, or even years, it's vastly different to be going away to do your job. While cricketers might get to go to exotic places like the Caribbean, they also have to go to places like Pakistan or Sri Lanka, where they are often forced to exist under threat of terrorist attacks and hence be confined to their "luxury hotels" under armed guard. If they are lucky enough to go out in public, they'll often have to endure being recognised and hassled by complete strangers. Couple all that with being separated from your family and friends, and the fact that you might be touring a place you've already visited many times before. Our jobs may not be glamorous, but at least we get to see our partners/kids/mates, watch out own tellies, and sleep in our own beds every night.

Money. Yes, guys like Ponting get paid a lot of money. But many cricketers get paid far less than you might think. However, all cricketers have a limited time at the top, which may be cut even shorter by injury, or indifferent form. Some lucky individuals might be able to forge a career commentating after they've finished playing, but seriously, how many manage that? Many cricketers retire having done nothing else, and being qualified for nothing else. Getting paid plenty of money is some compensation for their shortened careers. We mortals might be paid far less, but for the most part, all the effort we have to expend at work is to sit behind our desks and get fat.

Living in the public eye. How many of us are subjected to the level of public scrutiny that these guys are? for goodness sake, one only has to browse these very forums to get an idea of the level of blaming and shaming that gets directed at them. It can get ridiculously personal and irrational. I challenge any of you to stand up and claim that your jobs expose you to that sort of attention and criticism.

While Ponting may be one of those who will do well out of his career, I'm sure that most of his players (and indeed the vast majority of international cricketers) will fade into obscurity once their playing days are behind them - he speaks for them as well as himself.
 

Dick Rockett

International Vice-Captain
Slats4ever said:
Look at the pro baseballers in the states... Then that might shut ponting up
While my arguments above also apply to the baseballers, if you calculate the amount of time spent playing per year, a test cricket team spends up to 660 hours playing, and a Major League Baseball team spends up to 543 hours playing.

This is working on our previously mentioned figure of 15 tests and 30 ODIs per annum, assuming 6 hours per day of a test and 7 hours for an ODI. For MLB, it's working on 162 regular season games and a potential maximum of 19 playoff games, all at 3 hours each.

So the potential exists for an International cricketer to play a lot more, for far less money. I realise this is a nearly impossible scenario, but I wanted to show that appearances can be deceptive.
 

Francis

State Vice-Captain
Well... the weather in seasons does sorta preclude that.
Yeah but don't some countries play in late srping or early autum? I've seen teams play just out of summer so they can play more games.
 

sideshowtim

Banned
it's not the amount of cricket they are playing that ponting is complaining about, he is rather complaining about how close the matches they play are together. and he has a fabulous point. they have played 5 test matches in 5 weeks across 2 different time zones and climates.

their sluggish start to the bangladesh tour is testament that they require more than 1 day in a nation to get ready for a test match...cricket australia needs to do something about the scheduling of australias matches or else they are going to have alot of tired players and won't get the desired results.

in south africa we had about 2 days rest after each game. new zealand are currently getting over a week. new zealand are playing as much cricket as we are in south africa yet they have no right to complain as their tour has been scheduled very well.

unfortunately for australia, the future tours program is going to force more tests into a shorter period of time and it's just getting ridiculous at the moment. ponting has every right to complain. they haven't had a break of over 2 weeks since the start of the ashes. so ponting is right, you guys should give him a break. he isn't complaining about the number of tests and i can assure you playing cricket for his country would mean the world to him...it's how ridiculously close together CA schedules australia's tours.

and to think...if zimbabwe hadn't been stripped of test status we'd be playing them next :|
 

howardj

International Coach
It's my understanding that was the Australian players who wanted to get stuck straight into the Tests in Bangladesh. They didnt want a tour game, or a week's break built into the schedule, because it would mean more time away from home. Players either have to accept longer tours, or the current, unacceptable cramped itinerary. Seems to me they complain about both.
 

sideshowtim

Banned
howardj said:
It's my understanding that was the Australian players who wanted to get stuck straight into the Tests in Bangladesh. They didnt want a tour game, or a week's break built into the schedule, because it would mean more time away from home. Players either have to accept longer tours, or the current, unacceptable cramped itinerary. Seems to me they complain about both.
I can't remember any Aussie players ever saying they didn't want any tour games or a weeks break in Bangladesh...
 

howardj

International Coach
sideshowtim said:
I can't remember any Aussie players ever saying they didn't want any tour games or a weeks break in Bangladesh...
Im just going by what the Aussie Cricket CEO, James Sutherland, said.
 

sideshowtim

Banned
howardj said:
Im just going by what the Aussie Cricket CEO, James Sutherland, said.
Of course this guy is going to say that, he's trying to defend his tour schedule. I'm pretty sure he's putting words into the players mouths there.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
sideshowtim said:
Of course this guy is going to say that, he's trying to defend his tour schedule. I'm pretty sure he's putting words into the players mouths there.
why aren't they retaliating then?
 

sideshowtim

Banned
honestbharani said:
why aren't they retaliating then?
I'd like to see where James Sutherland said this anyway...Link anyone? I'm pretty sure Ponting's "give us a break" thing was retaliation enough...
 

howardj

International Coach
sideshowtim said:
The players have absolutely no input into how CA plans these tours so that's a ridiculous thing for him to say.
The ACA does though - I dont think Sutherland is just going to blatantly lie about it, when he's over there in Bangladesh with the team.
 

howardj

International Coach
They have a world-wide Player's Association. They should press for a mandatory 4 days between Test Matches, and one week's break following the conclusion of a Test series. The downside, I guess, is longer tours.
 

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