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Pakistan-England test rivalary
- Thread starter Xuhaib
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fredfertang
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When I first watched cricket back in the 70s Pakistan were great because they played cricket that was tremendous to watch, but we always won - it's only since your lot forgot that basic rule and started winning most of the time that we've become rivals
Black_Warrior
Cricketer Of The Year
I wasn't always aware of this rivalry. I had no idea of the history. I remember the first series I watched was the home series in 2000 and there was all this talk about how England hadn't toured in 13 years since the Gatting-Rana incident. I had no idea of those events and that was the first time I had read about it.
nightprowler10
Global Moderator
I started following this matchup in 2005, and it almost always ends up creating a lot of good drama alongside a lot of bad drama. Almost always so much fun to watch.
Furball
Evil Scotsman
This must be the first drama free tour of England for a while, previously we've had the spot fixing scandal in 2010 and Inzi lobbing his toys out the pram in 2006.
For whatever reason (ok, it's fast bowlers), Pakistan are just much better suited to playing in England than their subcontinental cousins.
Shame they tour at the same time as India in 2 years and we're only giving them 2 Tests. Better than playing some other joke outfit but it feels a bit disrespectful.
For whatever reason (ok, it's fast bowlers), Pakistan are just much better suited to playing in England than their subcontinental cousins.
Shame they tour at the same time as India in 2 years and we're only giving them 2 Tests. Better than playing some other joke outfit but it feels a bit disrespectful.
Howe_zat
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They tried to make something out of running on the pitch but it wasn't close to good enough an excuse for failing to beat Pakistan this time. Must try harder
nightprowler10
Global Moderator
Thinking about it, 2005 is still my favorite series between these two teams. The first two Tests especially were so close right until the end.
nightprowler10
Global Moderator
1st Test: Pakistan v England at Multan, Nov 12-16, 2005 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo
Needed 198 to win and fell 22 runs short. Highlights/lowlights of the series for me:
- Butt making us believe we finally had a good opener.
- Inzi scoring 2 100s in the 2nd Test to go ahead of Miandad, the second one probably cost us a win.
- Akhtar just being generally great and fit for a whole series. I don't know which was better, knocking out Giles' two stumps or the almost waist height full toss LBW on Geriant.
- Tresco getting dropped twice in his 190-odd score.
- Freddie dropping Yousuf at 12*, who then went on to make 223.
- Afridi being useful in a Test
- Afridi's audition for 'Dancing with the Stars' while everyone was distracted by an explosion
- Darrel Hair starting his rivalry with Pakistan
- Kaneria being extremely effective, maybe for the last time.
- Shabbir chucking
- Ian Bell claiming a catch that he had let go
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Furball
Evil Scotsman
You know what'll happen though, it'll be 1-1 with everyone dying for a 3rd or a 4th Test while India will probably be pasted 5-0.
Niall
International Coach
True in the Pakistan series, but rain did ensure Lanka drew the third test and washed out an ODI.
wpdavid
Hall of Fame Member
1992 was a great series, despite the unpleasantness at Old Trafford and the off-the-pitch fracas over ball tampering.
Pakistan were outstanding - clearly more talented than England - but we ran them pretty close. Effectively the series was decided by a large 9th wicket partnership between the 2 Ws at Lord's when Pakistan faltered chasing a small total.
1982 was very good as well. Pakistan were probably hard done by wrt umpiring decisions, but two of the three tests were close affairs. Even allowing for the umpiring, England did pretty well to win against a very good Pakistan side given the absence of Gooch and the other guys who'd gone to SA.
But it's often been spikey even in the 1970s.
Pakistan were outstanding - clearly more talented than England - but we ran them pretty close. Effectively the series was decided by a large 9th wicket partnership between the 2 Ws at Lord's when Pakistan faltered chasing a small total.
1982 was very good as well. Pakistan were probably hard done by wrt umpiring decisions, but two of the three tests were close affairs. Even allowing for the umpiring, England did pretty well to win against a very good Pakistan side given the absence of Gooch and the other guys who'd gone to SA.
But it's often been spikey even in the 1970s.
OverratedSanity
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Shoaib was so good that series. Those slower balls were hilariously awesome.
Black_Warrior
Cricketer Of The Year
That was Inzy's peak as a captain.
My favourite is this one
Akhtar was not bowling that well in that series (despite that ball to Ashley Giles in the 1st test) until 2nd innings of the 2nd test. England were going great with KP getting a hundred, then Akhtar bowled a short one, KP got a top edge and Akhtar celebrated with a chicken dance
And then that ball to Flintoff in the space of few overs
