*** Official *** South African Domestic Season 2021/22

[StephenZA]

Note Qeshile and van Tonder does not appear to be playing this round? Unsure about why?

I think Qeshile has form problems and not getting selected at the moment. But van Tonder apparently had to pull out morning of the game due to covid contact.

 

[WpGuy]

Ackerman is turning into a nice player, and I would like to give him a shot. I do think van Tonder needs to be the next in line. He was highest run scorer for previous two seasons and is probably the biggest talent in SA at the moment. I would love to give Hamza a shot as well and think he was treated terribly but I also dont want selectors picking based on a conveyor belt line. If they can bring in Jansen they can do it for the batsmen and picked with greatest potential. It would a very different scenario if we had a settled line-up, but we are building from scratch. Breetzke is another than is starting to perform.

If nothing else they should be brave and pick youngsters for the LO side.

What do you think of when Aus pick people like Michael Hussey at age 30 to debut in tests?

 

[StephenZA]

What do you think of when Aus pick people like Michael Hussey at age 30 to debut in tests?

I think that people miss-understood what happened back when Aus had a settled atg team, and where looking for somebody to just contribute. Look at their selection policy now when they still trying to put together a team. Green has been picked at 22, and has now been given 8 tests on a trot at home. We picked Mulder at 22, and he has got 7 tests during various different series over the last two years. Has no idea what his role is and keeps getting dropped unnecessarily.

Selection is not a one idea fits all scenarios. We are rebuilding, picking batsmen that are going to be looking at retiring in 3/4 years time after having toured the world once, at best, does not build a team. Picking talented youngsters now that in 8 years will be on second or 3rd tours of the cricketing world is going to likely build into a far better quality team. And make sure you have a proper succession plan in place for the next 6/8 years time so you don't end up in the same mess as now.

 

[Dendarii]

Hussey couldn't get into the Australian team for so long because there wasn't an opening for him. We've had enough gaps in our lineup over the years that any player over 30 who hasn't yet been tried usually wasn't tried for one very good reason - they're not good enough.

You might occasionally get lucky with someone like Van Der Dussen who has been excellent in the shorter formats (but only the shorter formats), but he's very much the exception. We're just not sitting with worldbeaters who have spent years toiling in domestic cricket because ATGs were keeping them out of the side.

 

[WpGuy]

I think that people miss-understood what happened back when Aus had a settled atg team, and where looking for somebody to just contribute. Look at their selection policy now when they still trying to put together a team. Green has been picked at 22, and has now been given 8 tests on a trot at home. We picked Mulder at 22, and he has got 7 tests during various different series over the last two years. Has no idea what his role is and keeps getting dropped unnecessarily.

Selection is not a one idea fits all scenarios. We are rebuilding, picking batsmen that are going to be looking at retiring in 3/4 years time after having toured the world once, at best, does not build a team. Picking talented youngsters now that in 8 years will be on second or 3rd tours of the cricketing world is going to likely build into a far better quality team. And make sure you have a proper succession plan in place for the next 6/8 years time so you don't end up in the same mess as now.

Personally I think age is a number depends on the player, wether he is 18 or 32 max as long as he can provide atleast 4 years plus , minimum to the side as test cricket isnt a developement thing and also guys groomed to step in straight away.

 

[Bahseph]

Have you guys been keeping up with the Domestic T20? Been a nice look at certain players who might have some Protea ambitions.

 

[Nintendo]

Have you guys been keeping up with the Domestic T20? Been a nice look at certain players who might have some Protea ambitions.

Why tf is deswardt batting at 8 for his domestic t20 team?

 

[Bahseph]

Why tf is deswardt batting at 8 for his domestic t20 team?

Mate don't get me started on the Dolphins. Phelukwayo is batting 3 and not bowling. It's crazy!

 

[Stefan9]

Have you guys been keeping up with the Domestic T20? Been a nice look at certain players who might have some Protea ambitions.

Been watching. Knights have been very disappointing.

 

[WpGuy]

Been watching. Knights have been very disappointing.

Riley Rossouw missing making a big difference. The only difference last time to this team when they won, also the sa players available last time there was a bigger squad for the stricter bubbles so alot less proteas played, also more kolpaks back like wp have vilas and levi etc.

 

[WpGuy]

Sa definitely look like only 5 or 6 teams worth of depth unless they push these sa u19s through but not many look ready. Also possibly the coaching as look how north west are doing, donald doesn't have a lot to play with though look at lions team missing their proteas probably still stronger on paper than free state.

 

[WpGuy]

Anyone following the b league teams, there a few guys who should be playing a league like Leus du plooy for example.

 

[Stefan9]

Riley Rossouw missing making a big difference. The only difference last time to this team when they won, also the sa players available last time there was a bigger squad for the stricter bubbles so alot less proteas played, also more kolpaks back like wp have vilas and levi etc.

Even without rossouw a batting lineup of kruger, van tonder, snyman, pite and behardien should put up better scores. They have been woeful.

 

[WpGuy]

Even without rossouw a batting lineup of kruger, van tonder, snyman, pite and behardien should put up better scores. They have been woeful.

True pite and fudge especially.

 

[Dendarii]

Phehlukwayo with his first century in any format. There's been a number of centurions in this latest round of 4-day matches, including Keegan Petersen and Jonathan Bird, with 5-wicket hauls for George Linde and Delano Potgieter.

 

[WpGuy]

Phehlukwayo with his first century in any format. There's been a number of centurions in this latest round of 4-day matches, including Keegan Petersen and Jonathan Bird, with 5-wicket hauls for George Linde and Delano Potgieter.

Bird,Smith,Kaplan showing wp structures on batting side coming through.

 

[Bahseph]

Just watched Mulder score a very good century for the Lions. Will definitely aid him if he bats up the order domestically.

 

[WpGuy]

Just watched Mulder score a very good century for the Lions. Will definitely aid him if he bats up the order domestically.

He should be playing all formats domestically as much as possible and test team hasn't shown enough in other 2 formats yet,
would like him to bat top 5 in 4 dayers and play as much as possible also, he has hardly played domestic due to int call ups and injuries, his bowling is fine, need more of those 100s.

 

[GRAB]

Franchise/First Division 4-day Only Records of Players active at beginning of season updated till end of season (MIN 10 INNINGS):

Top 20 Batting (I R 50/100)
1. MARKRAM 33 2017 67,2 8/8
2. BEDINGHAM 31 1467 54,3 8/4 - ENG?
3. VERREYNE 55 2603 54,2 18/4
4. VAN TONDER 42 1948 51,3 11/4
5. RICKELTON 24 1160 50,4 5/4
6. DE SWARDT 12 441 49,0 3/0
7. VAN ZYL 157 6635 48,8 34/17
8. VAN BILJON 86 3815 47,1 19/13
9. DE BRUYN 85 3737 46,1 16/11
10. ACKERMAN 44 1891 46,1 13/4
11. PETERSEN 75 3010 45,6 16/7
12. KLAASEN 57 2228 45,5 14/4
[13. ROSSOUW 101 4431 45,2 17/14]
14. GOUS 22 931 44,3 7/1 - USA
15. ACKERMANN 82 3411 44,3 23/8 - NETH
16. VAN DER DUSSEN 97 3716 43,7 23/7
17. RICHARDS 27 1001 43,5 3/3
18. ELGAR 162 6500 43,3 24/21
19. SECOND 137 5263 43,1 26/13
20. MALAN J 39 1595 43,1 7/4
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Other Relevant
21. MALAN P 101 4181 43,1 16/14
23. BAVUMA 101 3690 42,4 15/9
24. HAMZA 54 2069 42,2 10/4
25. POTGIETER 17 579 41,4 2/1
26. MOORE 89 3506 41,3 17/9
27. ERWEE 74 2947 40,9 16/9
28. MULDER 45 1379 40,6 4/4
29. MARSHALL 29 1175 40,5 8/2
[39. DE KOCK 27 975 36,1 7/2]
40. SMITH J 56 1805 36,1 13/2
43. QESHILE 50 1487 35,4 12/0
45. HENDRICKS R 190 6132 34,5 28/14
46. LINDE 27 859 34,4 4/4
48. ZONDO 76 3839 34,0 17/9
49. MUTHUSAMY 76 2266 32,8 12/7
57. PRETORIUS D 56 1624 31,2 10/2
60. DE ZORZI 51 1441 30,0 8/2
87. CONWAY 36 660 21,3 3/0 - NZ
88. HARMER 123 2187 21,2 10/0
90. MAHARAJ 69 1271 21,2 6/0

 

[GRAB]

Franchise/First Division 4-day Only Records of Bowlers active at beginning of season updated till end of season (MIN 15 WICKETS):

TOP 20: (M W AVE S/R 5/10)
1. MULLER 6 23 19,7 32,6 2/0 - NZ
2. NGIDI 6 21 20,3 37,1 1/0
[3. MORRIS 30 131 20,7 41,0 3/1]
4. ABBOTT 42 154 21,0 48,8 10/2
5. OLIVIER 40 183 21,3 41,9 10/1
6. POTGIETER 10 36 21,4 41,7 1/0
7. JANSEN M 9 35 22,6 44,3 1/0
8. RABADA 12 51 23,3 47,6 3/1
9. LINDE 18 87 23,9 50,5 7/2
10. PRETORIUS D 39 113 24,5 55,9 5/1
11. PILLANS 9 40 24,9 44,7 1/1 - ENG
12. B HENDRICKS 57 195 24,9 45,5 9/1
13. STUURMAN 17 60 25,0 47,0 4/0
14. MULDER 28 76 25,7 45,4 1/0
15. SIPAMLA 23 73 25,2 46,5 2/0
16. MUTHUSAMY 44 142 26,5 52,3 6/1
17. SIMMONDS 10 44 26,5 53,5 1/1
18. NORTJE 21 78 26,5 46,4 4/0
19. VILJOEN 59 248 26,7 45,0 15/2
20. PATERSON 58 203 26,9 51,3 8/0
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OTHER RELEVANT PLAYERS
21. SHAMSI 26 117 27,1 48,2 9/2
22. BOSCH E 20 54 27,1 53,9 2/0
26. MAHARAJ 46 198 28,0 58,7 15/3
27. PRETORIUS M 19 59 28,0 52,6 1/0
28. SAVAGE 24 64 28,2 53,5 2/0 - USA
30. COETZEE 12 40 28,6 54,6 0/0
32. WIESE 38 103 29,0 48,8 4/1 - NAM
34. BAARTMAN 18 47 29,9 0/0
35. DRY 26 73 30,1 57,4 3/0 - USA
36. DUPAVILLON 32 95 30,2 54,5 4/1
38. HARMER 77 318 30,4 60,7 15/3
39. DE LANGE 37 143 30,4 50,5 5/1 - ENG?
43. SUBRAYEN 26 89 31,1 67,6 5/1
46. WILLIAMS 35 104 32,0 55,1 1/0
48. PARNELL 30 85 32,2 58,7 4/1
50. PIEDT 64 227 33,1 64,1 14/2 - USA