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***Official*** South Africa in Sri Lanka
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TT Boy
Hall of Fame Member
Seems like Ntini’s injury is hamstring related, so the chances of him coming back tomorrow are near zero. Hard to believe that South Africa will get the remaining wickets without Makhaya though the new ball is available after eight overs tomorrow, so you never know. Fantastic knock by Mahela however, leading by example. To what would be a great victory.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
TT Boy said:
Not really, but I really say a lot of **** to my friends that I wouldn't really want anyone else hearing. Its all in good fun between us, because we know the context, but other people may not understand. I believe him, and in any case, I hope he resumes his commentary.
TT Boy
Hall of Fame Member
For sure, we all say stupid things with are mates and what have you but he was still operating in a working environment. Also the terrorist comment is a little bit too topical/relevant if you ask me for Jones to have any sort of excuse.silentstriker said:
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silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
TT Boy said:
Yea, well he apologized and it seems sincere enough. I don't think he really meant much harm by it, so I don't see it as a big deal, as long as it isn't repeated.
Lostman
State Captain
so thats why he was not commentating during the last 2 days, neil manthrop took his place. The rest of the commentators were saying that he was not available because he had a stomach ailment and he was in his hotel room. The producers could have made it interesting by making the rest of them draw teh short straw to tell us what had happened to him.
Lostman
State Captain
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/8/7/159117/record003.mp3
audio found it on another board
audio found it on another board
JBH001
International Regular
Humiliation is an extreme word AMZ. After all the economy rates are - more less - consistent for both of them around 3.50 - 4.50 per over. And I have seen your figures and read your arguments before.a massive zebra said:
(And let's not get into it again, here)
But I should clarify what I mean - it is not a mere matter of statistics.
It is that, anecdotally speaking, I have seen Murali often go on the defensive when a batsman or batting side come after him. He tends to too easily retreat and go into a holding role where he is content to give the batsman his due while posting men back and concentrating on conceding as little as possible. A case in point was when Lara had the measure of him and more when WI toured Sri Lanka in 2002 - I think. Murali was reduced to and quite content to put a man back at long off and give Lara the single whilst he went about attacking other WI batsman. It is the same when he faces Stephen Fleming - he simply has no answer to him and looks like he does not either.
It is something I rarely, if ever, see Warne doing. Warne may be getting dominated but he does not fold back into his shell - instead he usually tries to attack and constantly tries to implement other plans to win the contest with the batsman, even if at times it does not work and he continues to come off second best.
This is what I meant by mental resilience and toughness under pressure.
Of course it may be said that Murali has to be strike and stock bowler, and therefore when batsman come at him and get a hold of him he has to relinquish his strike role and adopt a defensive stock role in the service of his team. There is some truth in this - but I believe that there is the other aspect as well, where he does retreat too easily when under the cosh unlike Warne who is usually in the contest come what may. Though again, where Warne is concerned he has the luxury of a stellar supporting cast and is not burdened with having to carry his team in almost each and every test.
There is the other point regarding cricketing nous as well. Warne has a better cricket brain. Even if his physical gifts do not get a batsman out Warne seems able to think of a plan on the field and implement it successfully. Murali however, when his repertoire of gifts and abilities is found lacking (as they sometimes are) is usually found lacking and is reduced to just bowling in hope and looking distinctly ordinary. Though as his range of abilities are arguably greater than Warne's this rarely happens.
Let me be clear here. I admire and respect Murali enormously, more than Warne, and furthermore - as a Sri Lankan by birth and a Tamil too, I have a lot of time for Murali. More time than I will ever have for Warne. However as much as I respect and admire Murali, for the reasons above and from my personal impressions gained whilst watching them both wheeling away, I believe Warne to just shade Murali when it comes to bowling.
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