Spikey
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surprised gimh didn't go after sledger for holding this correct opinion
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*Official* Pro-Wrestling Thread II
- Thread starter GIMH
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GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
I actually missed it but certainly think that keeping the world title on someone for seven months is no way to make them a big name
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
You mean the faith breaker
sledger
Spanish_Vicente
Titles do not maketh the man. Just ask Jack Swagger.I actually missed it but certainly think that keeping the world title on someone for seven months is no way to make them a big name
Pratters
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I have seen a lot of wwe fan boys say it's Undertaker as he never gets defeated and stuff.
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I'm being lazy and just putting together names I like and who are ranked highly in the Observer Awards, but for outside WWE:
Hiroshi Tanahashi (NJPW)
Kazuchika Okada (NJPW)
Kota Ibushi (NJPW)
Jay Lethal (ROH) (I don't actually think Lethal is that good, but he's had gold at ROH for ages)
Roderick Strong (ROH/PWG)
Chris Hero (Indies, in particular PWG)
The Young Bucks (ROH/NJPW/PWG)
Zack Saber Jr (US and UK indies)
Ricochet/Prince Puma (Lucha Underground, NJPW, Indies)
The new Brothers Of Destruction, Fenix and Pentagon Jr (Lucha Underground, AAA)
ok so Fenix and Pentagon's relationship isn't acknowledged and they don't tag, but they're both so good.
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Spikey
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With the signings of AJ, Naka and La Sombra, WWE has 7 out of the top 10 here
LOU THESZ/RIC FLAIR AWARD (WRESTLER OF THE YEAR)
1. A.J. STYLES (299) 2,507
2. Hiroshi Tanahashi (160) 1,674
3. Kazuchika Okada (136) 1,532
4. Shinsuke Nakamura (190) 1,481
5. John Cena (55) 976
6. Brock Lesnar (79) 668
7. Seth Rollins (51) 580
8. Sasha Banks (80) 519
9. La Sombra (35) 228
10. Jay Lethal (21) 214
LOU THESZ/RIC FLAIR AWARD (WRESTLER OF THE YEAR)
1. A.J. STYLES (299) 2,507
2. Hiroshi Tanahashi (160) 1,674
3. Kazuchika Okada (136) 1,532
4. Shinsuke Nakamura (190) 1,481
5. John Cena (55) 976
6. Brock Lesnar (79) 668
7. Seth Rollins (51) 580
8. Sasha Banks (80) 519
9. La Sombra (35) 228
10. Jay Lethal (21) 214
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
Yeah, a 2-month reign with the secondary world title in the two title era, when John Cena was wearing the other one, is exactly the same as a seven month run with the sole world title, that only ended because of injury.
Exactly the same and a great example.
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i don't know much about him either. He was CMLL so he's got NJPW stuff. There's some links within the reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/3tfvc8/la_sombra_signs_with_wwe/
sledger
Spanish_Vicente
You staunchly defended the Swagger run at the time though.
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
Swagger was great in that run. Not the way he was or wasn't booked but his work. In particular the promo where he told us about a sandwich he had called the 'Swaggie'
Nonetheless. Most people were nonplussed. They took the belt off him. Tried a few times to get him over again, never really happened. Not remotely comparable to Seth.
Took the title off Brock, kept it, had the best matches all year long, won another title to go with it for a bit.
Sure he lost on Raw heaps and maybe he shouldn't but it really doesn't matter.
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
The big gold belt. They pushed him hard for a while. He was ECW champ circa 09 then won the MITB at Mania 26, cashed in on Jericho on the following Smackdown. Feuded with Big Show and then dropped the belt to Rey Rey I think. Wasn't getting over much, though as I said I thought he did a good job on the mic - and his matches with Rey were absolutely gun.
They tried to push him hard again a couple of years later. Feuded with ADR at Mania for the belt I think?
They tried to push him hard again a couple of years later. Feuded with ADR at Mania for the belt I think?