*Official* New Zealand in England 2015

[Athlai]

If Watling can't keep but can play I'd go.

Guptill
McCullum
Williamson
Taylor
Watling
Anderson
Latham (+)
Santner
Henry
Southee
Boult

 

[Prince EWS]

I think moving Latham would be pretty silly. You don't take a reserve wicket keeper halfway around the world in order to not play him and instead move your opener down to seven to keep and your #5 and captain up to open in the event of your keeper getting injured. Playing Spuderford would be even crazier.

If Watling can't keep then Ronchi plays.

 

[Moss]

I think moving Latham would be pretty silly. You don't take a reserve wicket keeper halfway around the world in order to not play him and instead move your opener down to seven to keep and your #5 and captain up to open in the event of your keeper getting injured. Playing Spuderford would be even crazier.

If Watling can't keep then Ronchi plays.

Agreed, Latham needs every chance he can get to develop his game as opener. Spuderford only needed if Anderson is out, but that is a real possibility.

 

[Athlai]

Would rather we opened with McCullum and have Ronchi keep in that scenario. A Watling fit to bat is more valuable than Latham atm.

 

[Moss]

Well there's zis guy playing for Essex currently....nah, let's not go there.

This is why following test series involving NZ is such fun. Always a couple of injuries, replacement squad members either yech or guys you can't slot in without changing the lineup around, and people from outside the squad hovering around as reminders. The team composition possibilities are endless.

 

[Bahnz]

Well there's zis guy playing for Essex currently....nah, let's not go there.

This is why following test series involving NZ is such fun. Always a couple of injuries, replacement squad members either yech or guys you can't slot in without changing the lineup around, and people from outside the squad hovering around as reminders. The team composition possibilities are endless.

Jeets actually has a higher average and more runs than Jess does atm. Though to be fair Jess has had more success with the ball.

 

[Prince EWS]

Jeets actually has a higher average and more runs than Jess does atm. Though to be fair Jess has had more success with the ball.

The world of county cricket.

 

[NZTailender]

Craig Cachopa?

 

[Bahnz]

Craig Cachopa?

He's been in even worse form than Jeets and Jess, and unlike either of them he doesn't have any bowling to fall back on. Could see him coming back to Plunket shield cricket with his tail between his legs in a years time if he keeps up his current form.

 

[SteveNZ]

Some outrageous hyperbole going on over the last 24 hours...

Ben Stokes is the new Ian Botham or Lance Cairns (depending which publication you read). This is our most disappointing Test loss in history. We'll be lucky to be invited back to England before Halley's Comet arrives again. Zimbabwe would be aggrieved at the amount of times we get invited to play in England. This was our most important match since the World Cup final (more important than the tour matches?!?!?).

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Yeah, it's all pretty hilarious. Square leg is in half a metre and catches Root on the fourth morning and we'd likely have won. Bad stuff happens, it was a pretty good test match and I'm backing the lads to level it.

 

[SteveNZ]

Yeah, it's all pretty hilarious. Square leg is in half a metre and catches Root on the fourth morning and we'd likely have won. Bad stuff happens, it was a pretty good test match and I'm backing the lads to level it.

Haha exactly right. I also read (might've been on here actually) that Southee went past the edge 1st ball to Root too and that could've changed the game. I'm sure we could find approx. 1424 turning points if that's the case.

Obviously we came in undercooked so you'd hope we have the bigger scale of improvement at Leeds.

 

[OverratedSanity]

No. I am saying

A) This inning means I have more confidence in his ability than his performances in West Indies,
B) If I see him in more testing conditions, I will have added confidence.

If anything, the West Indies knock should have given you more confidence than this one as that pitch was a far more difficult one to bat on. Lord's was flatter but the situation of the match made it an exceptional knock.

Look, I don't like seeing him in form because I dislike him but he's definitely back now. His judgement outside off was absolutely perfect.

 

[Mike5181]

McCullum aside, Latham's been the only opener to actually look somewhat test standard since Richardson. Let's not ruin that and force him to keep at number six/seven. That's the last thing he needs right now. This is the exact situation Ronchi's there for.

 

[NZTailender]

Root was seriously 'troubled' early in his second innings; was almost polar opposite to the first.

 

[NZTailender]

McCullum aside, Latham's been the only opener to actually look somewhat test standard since Richardson. Let's not ruin that and force him to keep at number six/seven. That's the last thing he needs right now. This is the exact situation Ronchi's there for.

Yeah my anti-Ronchi post was pretty short sighted. Latham opening is best for the team.

Just wish we had de Boorder itbt.

 

[Days of Grace]

Some outrageous hyperbole going on over the last 24 hours...

Ben Stokes is the new Ian Botham or Lance Cairns (depending which publication you read). This is our most disappointing Test loss in history. We'll be lucky to be invited back to England before Halley's Comet arrives again. Zimbabwe would be aggrieved at the amount of times we get invited to play in England. This was our most important match since the World Cup final (more important than the tour matches?!?!?).

Yeah, whilst the extra coverage and interest and number of articles written is almost on par now with the All Blacks, what I don't want is the level of hyperbole/tearing of shirts/knashing of teeth/loss of national pride for every loss like we get with the ABs.

The most disppointing loss in history is a bit much, but for me it's not too far from the mark.

 

[Dan]

NZ underperformed, yes. But England would have to have been somewhere near their peak, surely -- the bowlers bowled well, the batsman batted as well as they ever have in recent times, Stokes actually did something etc.

England can't go much further up from that performance. NZ can -- their ceiling is far higher. And yet they still pushed England close for the extreme majority of the Test, and almost managed to save it.

England to lose by an innings here, IMO

 

[Bahnz]

Yeah my anti-Ronchi post was pretty short sighted. Latham opening is best for the team.

Just wish we had de Boorder itbt.

Really think Watling has to play the next test, even if he's hobbling around the field for parts of it. It's tough on Anderson, but if he's got a back problem he's unlikely to be able to bowl much anyway.

 

[RxGM]

Really think Watling has to play the next test, even if he's hobbling around the field for parts of it. It's tough on Anderson, but if he's got a back problem he's unlikely to be able to bowl much anyway.

I ithink if Anderson cant bowl you can justify dropping him as an all-rounder and replacing him with a specialist bat i.e. BJ.