Howsie
International Captain
Yeah, wouldn't disagree with that. Especially when ND go away on international tours and whatnot.
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*** Official New Zealand Domestic Cricket 2011/2012 ***
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wellAlbidarned
International Coach
Howsie
International Captain
Yeah Bracewell goes alright, although that should be the first sign he isn't a true blue Central Stag. Born in Tauranga, ND age group rep, can bowl. Obviously a ND boy tbh.CD won both tests this summer for us single handedly tbh.
Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
Who was a hot commodity in the trading game and got flipped for two Indian batsman.
HeathDavisSpeed
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I thought that was pretty bizarre. With no tracking, how they could give that out I do not know. Also Doully showing he doesn't understand the Lbw law either from what I could glean - though it may have just been an atrocious job of explaining it.
thierry henry
International Coach
Nope, I think he genuinely doesn't get it. Not the first person I've heard misunderstand the "assume a full toss is going straight on" thing.
wellAlbidarned
International Coach
What actually happened? Sounds just a touch bizarre.
Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
I can't fin that rule in the rule book.
At least not in the versions I have seen I have only heard about it on TV.
Yeah, that was an atrocious piece of commentary. Basically Doully telling us that if you are hit on the full, you have to presume it is going straight on. So in Doull world, no matter what angle you release from, and no matter where the batsman is, as long as you hit him in front of all three on the full the umpire has to give it. Embarrasing.
I don't profess to know the rule inside out but doesn't it pertain to spinners and if a batsman is hit by a full toss it has to be presumed it's going straight on?
As for those who didn't see it - Bates was bowling to Pollard, hit him on the back of the foot with a full toss. They went upstairs (sorry if I'm missing parts, I only watched the highlights) and checked it without the aid of Eagle Eye/tracking data etc. It looked to me to be missing off or at the very most shaving it - which last time I checked would suggest there's benefit of the doubt to be had.
Meanwhile, Doull is telling us 'there's no doubt' it's out because it hit him (maybe, hard to tell whether the camera was right down the barrel) on off stump on the full and it has to be presumed it's going straight on. Ignore the fact that Bates released it from left-arm over. And he felt vindicated - and Rigor gave him the opportunity to be so - when it was given out.
HeathDavisSpeed
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
If a batsman's hit on the full, you cannot assume that any movement would occur were the ball to bounce. Whatever trajectory the ball was following, you assume it continues along the same trajectory. With Pollard being hit on off stump by a ball coming across him, I think the assumption was that the ball continued on a straight line to hit the stumps, rather than continuing along the trajectory that the ball had taken; which would have had it missing off. However, the ball had started to swing in so I think it was only missing by a couple of inches rather than half a foot.
Hurricane
Hall of Fame Member
Quote from the rules please...with link...i will take a look myself.
HeathDavisSpeed
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Didn't know that you could do either for Lbws without the proper DRS system in place, tbf.
