Choice is between bavuma and morris/phelukwayo.
Personally I would opt for temba if they get the pitch they want. Think morris will play thought, Ottis seems to really rate him
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Personally I would opt for temba if they get the pitch they want. Think morris will play thought, Ottis seems to really rate him
Let's face it, this is not about Rahane vs Rohit. India lost both innings with the top 3 failing to score anything. Vijay, Dhawan and Pujara were terrible. When you're going in with 5 batsmen, the role of the top 3 is to make it easier for the stroke makers later down the order but Virat and Rohit were exposed way too early (not that this lets them off the hook).
I'm most disappointed with Vijay and Pujara. Dhawan sucks...but he should have gone harder at the ball given that's his game. That said, pulling against Steyn or Morkel on these pitches in the first 10 overs is a recipe for disaster. Vijay was supposed to be a brilliant leaver of the ball and fared really poorly.
Pujara for all his stockability needs some scoring shots besides a flick off his pads in these conditions. Some of the balls in the first innings were half volleys that he just defended from the crease. To his credit, Virat looked good in the second innings. All in all, the last couple of tours overseas for India has been all about missed opportunities. They nearly won in New Zealand but let go. Had a 1st innings lead vs SA in both tests in their last tour and still lost one of them and drew the other.
For long India didn't have the bowling resources to win overseas. Now they do....the batsmen need to stand up. For all their stats, these lot don't touch Sehwag, Dravid, Sachin, Ganguly and VVS Laxman.
I'm most disappointed with Vijay and Pujara. Dhawan sucks...but he should have gone harder at the ball given that's his game. That said, pulling against Steyn or Morkel on these pitches in the first 10 overs is a recipe for disaster. Vijay was supposed to be a brilliant leaver of the ball and fared really poorly.
Pujara for all his stockability needs some scoring shots besides a flick off his pads in these conditions. Some of the balls in the first innings were half volleys that he just defended from the crease. To his credit, Virat looked good in the second innings. All in all, the last couple of tours overseas for India has been all about missed opportunities. They nearly won in New Zealand but let go. Had a 1st innings lead vs SA in both tests in their last tour and still lost one of them and drew the other.
For long India didn't have the bowling resources to win overseas. Now they do....the batsmen need to stand up. For all their stats, these lot don't touch Sehwag, Dravid, Sachin, Ganguly and VVS Laxman.
Black_Warrior
Cricketer Of The Year
So what are your changes for the second test? Morris or Bavuma for Steyn? KL Rahul for Dhawan? Rahane for Rohit?
weldone
Hall of Fame Member
No. Ganguly averaged 42 away, and Sehwag 45. That's not 'terrible' by any standards. Stop embarrassing yourself.
StephenZA
Hall of Fame Member
I would go Bavuma, but Gibson does want an allrounder. So Morris a very real possibility. Also possible they drop Maharaj at the Wanderers.
SeamUp
International Coach
Definitely that for SA. They could go either way but favouring Bavuma and if for both then Morris in for Kesh.
KL Rahul definitely in and whilst Shikhar gets deserved criticism is it unjust of me to think Vijay could be the one to go ?
Rahane over Rohit in your sleep.
Ishant/Umesh for Bumrah
I also wonder if Saha is capable of helping out with runs.
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Bavuma for me but morris will play.
CricAddict
Cricketer Of The Year
Nice to know that the second test starts soon. I ve grown a little more confident about the Indian team after this performance. Ashwin, Pandya and to a certain extent, Bhuvi finding runs is good.
On Rohit vs Rahane, think it wouldn't have mattered so much as an earlier poster put it. Our top 3 need to do more. Once Kohli finds his strides, India could be a transformed team.
On Rohit vs Rahane, think it wouldn't have mattered so much as an earlier poster put it. Our top 3 need to do more. Once Kohli finds his strides, India could be a transformed team.
Niall
International Coach
I know the quota system is not every game, but Morris and I assume Oliver in with Maharaj out might raise a few eye brows?
I'd bring in Bavuma as his batting merits it for Steyn.
India anyone for Rohit.
It should really be starting on Friday.. .
StephenZA
Hall of Fame Member
No it would more likely be Morris and Bavuma in with Maharaj out... else hopefully Bavuma in for Steyn.
By away meaning outside of SC.
SeamUp
International Coach
How has the weather been up there ? There were some storms over Christmas. Looks like a thunder storm/shower from Tuesday afternoon.
Just generally if this is what we saw at Newlands then Kesh is in trouble of playing on the highveld - particularly the Wanderers. It could swing all day there.
Dravid was a sitting duck in South Africa and Australia (Aside from that one 2003/4 series with Brad Williams and Nathan Bracken and no Mcgrath and Warne).
He still has played many valuable innings overseas.
cnerd123
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Pujara looked the most assured in the first innings and got a gem in the second. To say he failed because he lacks #intent is bizarre. This is a Test Match. Run rate doesn't matter. If his limpet like batting makes the other batsmen anxious that's on them, not him. Plus he does possess shots all over the wicket - have we forgotten literally all his other big innings? The man just absorbs absorbs and absorbs pressure until the bowling fades before attacking them. In other words, he bats like a proper Test batsman.
He face the most difficult phase of the first innings and the 92 balls he ate up arguably set the platform for what followed from Pandya. And yes he played a loose shot and should have kicked on from that start, but do we really focus on that while handwaving the brainfades from Dhawan Kohli and Nohit because 'they're not good enough for these conditions'
The batting unit as a whole failed but Pujara emerges with the most credit IMO. Pandya and Pujara. And Kohli for showing some spark in the second innings. Nothing else from anyone.
He face the most difficult phase of the first innings and the 92 balls he ate up arguably set the platform for what followed from Pandya. And yes he played a loose shot and should have kicked on from that start, but do we really focus on that while handwaving the brainfades from Dhawan Kohli and Nohit because 'they're not good enough for these conditions'
The batting unit as a whole failed but Pujara emerges with the most credit IMO. Pandya and Pujara. And Kohli for showing some spark in the second innings. Nothing else from anyone.