***Official*** English Domestic Season 2015

[superkingdave]

Scott Borthwick with a ton last night for Wellington. Means he has first class hundreds in SL, NZ and ENG domestic competitions. Wonder who was the last English player to score hundreds in three different countries first class competitions? Can't think of anyone recently. Maybe Graeme Hick. (Yep, Aus, NZ and Eng but not ZImbabwe because they didn't have fc cricket until 93).

Slightly cheating:
Gautam Ghambir - Ranji Trophy, Carib Beer Cup, County Championship

and somewhat surprisingly

Bilal Shafayat: CC, Logan Cup, Quaid-e-Azam trophy

 

[theegyptian]

Shafayat is a great shout. Would never of got that.

 

[91Jmay]

Remember when Billy was burning down the clock in Cardiff 09. Amazing scenes.

 

[Prince EWS]

Moeen's done it too -- England, Sri Lanka and Zimbabwe.

 

[Howe_zat]

Thought Jonathan Trott would be a good shout, he made runs for Otago at one point, but turns out he never got a ton in SA.

 

[Dan]

Murray Goodwin has done it (Zimbabwe, England, Australia).
Barry Richards would have too (RSA, Australia, England).
Johann Myburgh (RSA, England, NZ).
Viv Richards (WI, England, Australia).
Garry Sobers (WI, England, Australia).
Younis Khan (Pakistan, England, Australia)
Ryan ten Doeschate (England, NZ, Intercontinental Cup)

Andy Flower almost did it, but had a highest score of 82 for South Australia

 

[theegyptian]

Moeen's done it too -- England, Sri Lanka and Zimbabwe.

good work. I just about remember when he went to SL but Zimbabwe had completely been wiped from my memory. There was those few years where a load of random brits turned up in ZImbabwe.

 

[theegyptian]

County T20 competition may be split into two leagues and feature relegation and promotion - Telegraph

Honestly this feels like they've taken every bad idea and moulded it into one. More ****ing t20 matches whilst managing potentially to get rid of local derbies at the same time? 16 matches each in a group stage is just massive overkill. Should be quality not quantity. The report doesn't seem to say whether after the 16 match group stage it goes into a knockout or that's just it. If it's just league there are going to be teams who have nothing to play for in the last bit of the season- and you're not going to get the high pressure knockout games that mimic international t20 leagues and international cricket.

Seems likes the counties are so desperate to not have franchise cricket that they'll go along with anything else.

 

[Watson33]

County T20 competition may be split into two leagues and feature relegation and promotion - Telegraph

Honestly this feels like they've taken every bad idea and moulded it into one. More ****ing t20 matches whilst managing potentially to get rid of local derbies at the same time? 16 matches each in a group stage is just massive overkill. Should be quality not quantity. The report doesn't seem to say whether after the 16 match group stage it goes into a knockout or that's just it. If it's just league there are going to be teams who have nothing to play for in the last bit of the season- and you're not going to get the high pressure knockout games that mimic international t20 leagues and international cricket.

Seems likes the counties are so desperate to not have franchise cricket that they'll go along with anything else.

I would be 1000000000% sure they will have some form of a finals day. It's sadly the only day of the year these days that they get a full house at a big venue for a domestic game (roses games excluded). But, the only thing that makes me think there wouldn't be, is that if they do have that knockout stage afterwards isn't it just the same as what is happening now?

 

[wpdavid]

Murray Goodwin has done it (Zimbabwe, England, Australia).
Barry Richards would have too (RSA, Australia, England).
Johann Myburgh (RSA, England, NZ).
Viv Richards (WI, England, Australia).
Garry Sobers (WI, England, Australia).
Younis Khan (Pakistan, England, Australia)
Ryan ten Doeschate (England, NZ, Intercontinental Cup)

Andy Flower almost did it, but had a highest score of 82 for South Australia

I'd be surprised if there weren't any other Saffers from the 1970s & 1980s who didn't make 100s in English and Australian domestic cricket as well as in their homeland.

An unusual one might be Roan Kanhai who played some sort of domestic cricket in SA of all places, as well as in England and the WI.


EDIT
It might be harder than I thought to find a Saffer who scored 100s in 3 countries' domestic competitions, as Procter, Rice and Cook inly played in SA and England.
Ken McEwan did play 2 or 3 seasons for Western Australia as well as scoring freely for Essex for well over a decade, so perhaps he managed it.

And Kanhai actually played in four countries' domestic competitions, turning out for Western Australia as well as the above mentioned, but I have no idea how to find out whether he made 100s in all of them.

 

[Dan]

I'd be surprised if there weren't any other Saffers from the 1970s & 1980s who didn't make 100s in English and Australian domestic cricket as well as in their homeland.

An unusual one might be Roan Kanhai who played some sort of domestic cricket in SA of all places, as well as in England and the WI.


EDIT
It might be harder than I thought to find a Saffer who scored 100s in 3 countries' domestic competitions, as Procter, Rice and Cook inly played in SA and England.
Ken McEwan did play 2 or 3 seasons for Western Australia as well as scoring freely for Essex for well over a decade, so perhaps he managed it.

And Kanhai actually played in four countries' domestic competitions, turning out for Western Australia as well as the above mentioned, but I have no idea how to find out whether he made 100s in all of them.

Kanhai has tons in four countries, yeah -- Australia (Tasmania/Western Australia), England (Warwickshire), South Africa (Transvaal), West Indies (British Guiana).

McEwan did it, yeah. Tons for WA, Essex, Border/EP/WP.

Easiest way to look them up is via the Cricket Archive 'First Class Batting and Fielding for Each Team'

 

[wpdavid]

Kanhai has tons in four countries, yeah -- Australia (Tasmania/Western Australia), England (Warwickshire), South Africa (Transvaal), West Indies (British Guiana).

McEwan did it, yeah. Tons for WA, Essex, Border/EP/WP.

Easiest way to look them up is via the Cricket Archive 'First Class Batting and Fielding for Each Team'

Thanks Dan

 

[AndrewB]

Kallicharran made 100s for Warwickshire (52), Guyana (6), Transvaal & OFS (4 & 2) and Queensland (1).

An early example was Jack Crawford, who made 100s for Surrey (8), South Australia (2), Otago and Wellington (1 each). He also took 10 wickets in a match for each of them at least once: in fact he managed a "match double" (100 runs and 10 wickets) for each of Surrey, South Australia and Wellington.

 

[WalkingWicket]

Just seen a tweet that Saqlain Mushtaq wants to play in the Blast in the summer Could see stranger things happen

 

[Scaly piscine]

God. Just do an 8/10 team city based competition. Not ****ing difficult.

City T20 back on cards as county chiefs get radical | Cricket | ESPN Cricinfo

Only the ECB could come up with a 'compromise' that's worse than either end of the spectrum. Why on earth would you want divisions? It is beyond moronic.

 

[Woodster]

So the ECB have taken the plunge and re-structured the domestic campaign again for the 2017 season. Some of the details are yet to be fully revealed, presumably still a work in progress but the main changes are as follows -

The County Championship will remain a two-division format but instead of it being nine teams in each league, Division One will have eight teams, while the lower tier will have ten, and the number of games each county play will now be fourteen rather than 16, this in theory enables more rest days and practice days. The top division will therefore be straightforward with all teams playing the other seven clubs home and away, yet how that is adopted in the second division appears yet to be decided. How will they work out who plays who just the once ? This will give some sides an unfair advantage or indeed disadvantage and gives the whole division an imbalanced look. Though I do like the idea of slightly fewer games in favour of more rest/practice days for the players.

With the T20 they have reverted back to playing this in a block rather than spread out through the course of the season. This is the way more successful T20 competitions run, like the IPL and the Big Bash, and it does give sides a better opportunity of luring overseas stars for an entire campaign rather than the odd few fixtures. It is also scheduled for the main part of the summer (July and August) in order to get the youngsters there through the summer. It may not help the Test side if there are no CC games going on while England are in the middle of a Test series, but we'll have to see if there are any CC fixtures planned during this period. The Friday arrangement appeared to work last season with attendances on the rise, the one concern with playing the games in a block format is whether the spectators can afford so many games in close proximity, but maybe that's down to the individual counties to ensure these games are affordable! With the idea of geographical franchises not out of the equation, the T20 could face more severe changes before 2017.

The 50-over competition seems to have the worst of the new scheduling, this tournament gets played during the inconsistent weather months of April and May, with a Lords final in July, at least the wether should have less impact than it has with September finals.

With the separation of the competitions it does allow sole focus for the clubs with the format in hand, but once again there is no perfect solution to this continuing conundrum that is the domestic calendar, but here's hoping that this next re-shuffle is for the better!

 

[SeamUp]

So what we got with the centurions in 3 different domestic competitions in 3 different countries

Murray Goodwin ( Sussex (48) , Western Australia (10), Glamorgan (4), EC Warriors (2), Mashonaland (1) )
Barry Richards ( Hampshire (38), Natal (27), South Australia (6) )
Johann Myburgh ( Canterbury (7), Northerns (5), Somerset (2) ).
Viv Richards ( Somerset (47) , Glamorgan (10), Leeward Islands (9), Queensland (1) )
Garry Sobers ( Notts (18), South Australia (10), Barbados (8) )
Younis Khan ( Habib Bank (9), Peshawar (3), Yorkshire (3), NW Frontier Prov (2), United Bank (1), South Australia (1) )
Scott Borthwick (Durhan (9), Chilaw Marians Cricket Club (1), Wellington (1) )
Moeen Ali ( Worcestershire (11), Matabeleland Tuskers (1), Moors Sports Club (1) )
Bilal Shafayat ( Notts (5), Northants (4), Habib Bank (3), Matabeleland Tuskers (2) )
Rohan Kanhai ( Warwickshire (35), Guyana (4), Transvaal SACB (3), Western Australia (2), Tasmania (2) )
Alvin Kallicharan ( Warwickshire (52), Guyana (6), Transvaal (4), OFS (2), Queensland (1) )
Desmond Haynes (Middlesex (21), Barbados (13), Western Province (1) )
Ken McEwan (Essex (52), Western Province (10), Eastern Province (6), Western Australia (2), Border (1) )
Kepler Wessels (Eastern Province (25), Queensland (18), Sussex (10), Western Province (1), Northern Transvaal (1) )

* Kallicahran played for the SA Coloured and Black Transvaal team
** If the above counts and Kallicharan is 4, only Murray Goodwin matches that

Others ? Checked Ervine, Shah but don't fit.

Potential loop-hole : Mike Procter would have played for Rhodesia and scored hundreds for them, his county and provinces in SA.

 

[Howe_zat]

We really ought to get a new thread at some point

 

[theegyptian]

Still no end in sight for Zafar injury wise. https://www.kiaoval.com/update-on-injured-trio/

Last weeks news but Tom Fell is undergoing chemo. So fingers crossed for him. FELL TO UNDERGO CHEMOTHERAPY BUT DETERMINED TO REMAIN UPBEAT