Moin Khan vs Rashid Latif

[aussie]

Just wondering how you Pakistan rate them & who do you think was better. I have always heard the general idea that Latif was the better glovesman while Moin was better with the bat. But i have my querries.

From my knowledge i can't say i can honestly separate their ability as glovesmen, but Moin at his peak with the bat IMO (around the 99 WC to late 2001 when ENG where in PAK) his batting for me was always very dangerous never forget his innings vs AUS in the 99 WC at headingley.

With Latif first sight of him really was in 2001 when PAK came here, always looked solid with the bat, my only spectacular thing i remember from Latif was him smashing AUS about in an ODI @ Cardiff in 2001.

Would like to hear the views of those who have followed both careers in depth though, so shoot fellas..

 

[haroon510]

you got it right budy

Latif good glovesman
Moin good Batsman.. if we continue argueing about this.. this will turn in to discuasion of Batsman wicket keeper vs wicket keeper batsman..

 

[Xuhaib]

Latif 92-97 was the best wicketkeeper ever which gave him real advantage over Moin after that his glovework detoriated and from then onwards Moin overtook him as being a better option.

 

[DaRick]

From what I heard, Moin Khan was a better batsman, but an inferior keeper to Rashid Latif (who, incidentially, doesn't strike me as being as virtuous as he occassionally claims that he is). Anyway, both have probably been disqualified from consideration by the PCB - plus Rashid Latif has retired, has he not (even though Kamran Akmal has been sucking quite often for quite a while)?

 

[Richard]

Latif's wicketkeeping always seems to have been held in impossibly lofty regards (witness Xuhaib's comments for example). I only ever saw him for a couple of years 2001-2003, where he was good, undoubtedly, but certainly more fallible than a few (Stewart, Kaluwitharana and Boucher most notably).

Latif, though, was the classic example of 1990s wicketkeeper-batsman - certainly capable with the willow, but nowhere near, absolutely nowhere near, specialist-bat material. I doubt anyone of his batting ability would get too close to international cricket at the current time. That being said, Latif's batting definately looked-up towards his international twilight years, and I remember one utterly fabulous ODI knock he played at Sophia Gardens against Australia in partnership with Mohammad Yousuf. He'd never have been able to play that earlier, so maybe it was just a case of taking batting more seriously later on.

Moin Khan, though, was always one of my favourite wicketkeeper-batsmen. Good enough to play 3(?) Tests as a specialist bat, with Latif keeping, and a fabulous gloveman when (on the majority of occasions) asked to, to both seam and spin.

The comparison to Knott and Taylor is not quite perfect (both Knott and Taylor were probably superior glovemen to either Pakistani, and undoubtedly Latif a far better batsman than Taylor) but there have been many, many cases which bear less similarity.

 

[Richard]

From what I heard, Moin Khan was a better batsman, but an inferior keeper to Rashid Latif (who, incidentially, doesn't strike me as being as virtuous as he occassionally claims that he is). Anyway, both have probably been disqualified from consideration by the PCB - plus Rashid Latif has retired, has he not (even though Kamran Akmal has been sucking quite often for quite a while)?

LOL, think it's probably a historical rather than who-at-the-current-time question. I mean, like Engineer vs Kirmani, for instance.

 

[DaRick]

LOL, think it's probably a historical rather than who-at-the-current-time question. I mean, like Engineer vs Kirmani, for instance.

Yeah, probably...although neither are that old, per se.

 

[sledger]

moin khan for mine.

 

[The Sean]

Latif 92-97 was the best wicketkeeper ever

That's quite a claim.

 

[BhupinderSingh]

As a batsman:Moin Khan>>Rashid Latif
As a wicket keeper:Rashid Latif>>>Moin Khan

 

[BhupinderSingh]

That's quite a claim.

TBH,there isn't much wrong with that statement.He's the best wicket keeper I've seen during my lifetime,followed by Ian Healy.

 

[BhupinderSingh]

Latif's wicketkeeping always seems to have been held in impossibly lofty regards (witness Xuhaib's comments for example). I only ever saw him for a couple of years 2001-2003, where he was good, undoubtedly, but certainly more fallible than a few (Stewart, Kaluwitharana and Boucher most notably).

Those 3 were not even half as good as 1990s Rashid Latif.

 

[aussie]

Latif 92-97 was the best wicketkeeper ever which gave him real advantage over Moin after that his glovework detoriated and from then onwards Moin overtook him as being a better option.

As a batsman:Moin Khan>>Rashid Latif
As a wicket keeper:Rashid Latif>>>Moin Khan.

Well as presmably both Pakistani fans, if we where to use our imagination here who would you pick in an all-time Pakistan side since those two would be your solid options IMO. Since Wasim Bari would make the XI a bit unbalanced & Kamran Akmal even though he is the best batsman/keeper to come out of PAK he has yet to play a major innings vs a top side (even though he got that pressure knock in Karachi 06), plus his keeping post ENG 2005 has been woeful.

 

[Richard]

Kamran Akmal is the best nothing. As things currently stand, he's a one-season wonder who has done pretty much sod-all outside 2005\06.

Seriously, how on Earth has someone mostly so awful played so much?

 

[slowfinger]

Kamrans not consistent, he is just random( gets scores like 100 when you font expect)

He is rubbish apart from the glovework which is exceptional.
He is an OK all-rounder IMO

 

[Richard]

He is rubbish apart from the glovework which is exceptional.

 

[Pup Clarke]

Can't actually remember how many stumpings and catches he's put down of Kaneria.

 

[Richard]

And, worse still, the number of catches he's missed off the seamers.

Some Pakistani poster provide us an estimate? I back np10, he's good at this stuff.

 

[DaRick]

Kamrans not consistent, he is just random( gets scores like 100 when you font expect)

He is rubbish apart from the glovework which is exceptional.
He is an OK all-rounder IMO

Not to be rude or anything, but are you living in a time warp? Or have you not seen him since the end of 2005? He was poor in South Africa 2006/07 and apparently even worse in England 2006.

Kamran Akmal is the best nothing. As things currently stand, he's a one-season wonder who has done pretty much sod-all outside 2005\06.

Seriously, how on Earth has someone mostly so awful played so much?

He wasn't too bad in Australia in 2004/05 (aside from him shelling a catch from Hayden), but I agree; he's done nothing since the end of 2005. Are there any other wicketkeepers in the reckoning - (i.e: ones who don't shell chances galore off spinners in particular)?

 

[subshakerz]

TBH,there isn't much wrong with that statement.He's the best wicket keeper I've seen during my lifetime,followed by Ian Healy.

I agree, the 90s Rashid rarely if ever fumbled the ball, and took amazing catches with stunning regularity, even more than Healy. The best keeper I've seen.