Is spin bowling a dying art in modern day cricket?

[PhoenixFire]

To get away from Aussie spinners...

Has anyone actually seen Adil Rasheed bowl? If so, what did they think of him?

I saw him bowl live last year, and he actually looks the real deal. Perfectly capable to bat 7 or higher, quality attacking spinner and an excellent fielder to boot.

 

[chaminda_00]

Rashid looks pretty good but way too early to rate him. Did he go on the Academy tour to Australia?

 

[Richard]

Certainly did.

 

[shortpitched713]

another backdoor entry, very typical of Indian selection.

 

[Richard]

Haha, one of the best naughtys of my time, TBH.

 

[pup11]

I think Chawla has been pushed into international cricket a bit too early, he is only 19 and he has already played a test match and i have feeling he might soon become a regular in the ODI side.



But if a young spinner like him gets hammered against better sides, then that does no good to his confidence.

 

[Athlai]

I think Chawla has been pushed into international cricket a bit too early, he is only 19 and he has already played a test match and i have feeling he might soon become a regular in the ODI side.



But if a young spinner like him gets hammered against better sides, then that does no good to his confidence.

Vettori started at 18.

 

[chaminda_00]

Certainly did.

How did he go?

 

[pup11]

So Adil Rashid should be playing for England then, because he is also 19.

 

[chaminda_00]

So Adil Rashid should be playing for England then, because he is also 19.

No beacause his not the best option. Also Power is likely to be the main spinner for a while. When they play two spinners, he will probably get a run. His basically been introduced slowly into International cricket.

 

[Dasa]

Also, Rashid has played much less FC and OD cricket compared to Chawla. No comparison really.

 

[pup11]

Its the back-door entry in Indian cricket which is the biggest grey area of Indian selection process, i mean whats the criteria for selection in the Indian team performance or potential.

Because if performance is the criteria Chawla hasn't done enough over other spinners in the domestic circuit to be selected.

 

[Richard]

It's not just India - the situation is even worse in Pakistan, and also applies to some extent in Sri Lanka too.

 

[Richard]

How did he go?

They say he worked hard, which is the basic prerogative of any Academy stint. From what I've heard nothing particularly revelatory has come out of it - no extra Googlies or Flippers or anything - but I'd imagine he's had a few words with the Terry Jenners of this World, and basically simply focused on cricket throughout the winter, something he'd probably not have done had he had a winter at home.

The Academy squad went on an A-tour of Bangladesh, too.

 

[chaminda_00]

Its the back-door entry in Indian cricket which is the biggest grey area of Indian selection process, i mean whats the criteria for selection in the Indian team performance or potential.

Because if performance is the criteria Chawla hasn't done enough over other spinners in the domestic circuit to be selected.

The thing is most of these guys who get 'back door entry' get a handful for games and if they don't perform they get put back into domestic cricket. Apart from Patel, most have only got a few games, but Patel got quite a few games as there was no replacements ready until Karthik and Dhoni excelled at domestic level, or in Karthik's case was performing at a decent level.

Most of the times you get players like Chamara Silva, who got called up after a handful of domestic matches, doesn't perform and then gets dropped. Comes back after 4-5 seasons and excels at the international level (hopefully).

No doubt you get some players selectors keep going back to, cus they have no one else to select like Dilhara Fernando and Nuwan Zoysa. But generally they try and do what they did with Chamara Silva, a couple games when his young and a couple seasons of domestic cricket, then back to the national team, when his really ready.

With Chawla i wouldn't be surprised if he gets a few games here and there. But they put him back into domestic cricket if he struggles and bring back Mishra or Murali Kartik.

 

[pup11]

Due to this back door entry system, Indian team has lost so many good talented players, the players are first brought in raw and without much FC experience and due to this when there is a slump in their form they are dropped and after that their comeback into the team becomes very hard because some other young rookie takes over their slot in the team.

Its this game of musical chairs that BCCI is playing for a long time that needs to stopped.

 

[chaminda_00]

Due to this back door entry system, Indian team has lost so many good talented players, the players are first brought in raw and without much FC experience and due to this when there is a slump in their form they are dropped and after that their comeback into the team becomes very hard because some other young rookie takes over their slot in the team.

Its this game of musical chairs that BCCI is playing for a long time that needs to stopped.

Maybe but it could be more of case that some of those players didn't have what it takes to convert their talent into performances. Guys like Mongia, Jaffer, Y.Singh all made their debuts at a youngish age and are now coming back into the fold. Singh is probably more to do with injuries, then getting dropped though. Zaheer Khan similar, but that probably has more to do with the lack of seamers to pick from. I wouldn't be surprised if Kaif comes back into the fold once Ganguly and Tendulkar retire or get dropped, most likely retire.

 

[Manee]

Zaheer Khan similar, but that probably has more to do with the lack of seamers to pick from.

Or his successful run in the English County set up where he, among other things, took 9 wickets in one spell.

 

[trundler]

Bangladesh got some young exciting prospect spinners. And so does Sri lanka i'm pretty sure.

This was a lie.

 

[trundler]

In reference to India's future: Thank God for Piyush Chawla !!!!!

This did not age well.