SJS
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Numbers aren't everything, and I don't think the numbers are the reason that WG Grace was called the father of cricket either.
Numbers aren't everything, and I don't think the numbers are the reason that WG Grace was called the father of cricket either.
Woopsies. It was sarcasm, wasn't it?
You disagree? Come on, then! Let's debate!
More than disagreement he must have been shocked that it came from someone who used Neville Cardus as his 'pseudonym'.You disagree? Come on, then! Let's debate!
Ah, I see.More than disagreement he must have been shocked that it came from someone who used Neville Cardus as his 'pseudonym'.
Being fast, ***y, and having one amazing series isn't everything. If that was the case Simon Jones should be amongst the greats.Yes and so was WG Grace. Just imagine a test batting average barely above 32 and even in first class cricket a batting average below 40. Champion indeed . Hah. Navjot Siddhu is better.
Being fast, ***y, and having one amazing series isn't everything. If that was the case Simon Jones should be amongst the greats.
I think Bradman influences the publics opinion of Orielly quite a bit. You might well be right about Lohmann. No one says anything about him except that he was fantastic.I love old George, but lets be honest some of his Test wickets against SA are a little 'cheap'. After all at the time the matches were not even considered first class.
Just about everyone who watched Lol said he was the greatest fast bowler (and fastest) if you discount Jonah Jones who said he could not dint a pound of butter on a hot day
The list of admirers included 'Fergie' who watched a lot of Test cricket in his time.
Larwood was only hit for six on two occasions in his entire career. I also feel that his early Test captains bowled him the wrong way, he would often take early wickets but they would continue to bowl him into the ground.
To sum up I think both Lohman and Larwood two of the all time greats
As do I. I am very excited about the recent surfacing of a biography on him by Keith Booth.I love old George
Agreed, but it would be wrong to propose that his greatness was based solely on the exaggerated Test figures that he obtained from his matches against the Springboks. Reading Ralph Barker's excellent piece on him, it is obvious that Lohmann had cause to be revered by the Aussies, too - and, indeed, he was.but lets be honest some of his Test wickets against SA are a little 'cheap'. After all at the time the matches were not even considered first class.
I'd never heard that one before! Could you cite a source for it (without, of course, slashing open the packaging in which you are presently keeping all of your books)?Just about everyone who watched Lol said he was the greatest fast bowler (and fastest) if you discount Jonah Jones who said he could not dint a pound of butter on a hot day
The list of admirers included 'Fergie' who watched a lot of Test cricket in his time.
Larwood was only hit for six on two occasions in his entire career.
Barker believes that they bowled him to his death.I also feel that his early Test captains bowled him the wrong way, he would often take early wickets but they would continue to bowl him into the ground.
It's very hard to argue with someone as diplomatic and, well, so very right as you, Archie. Cheers, mateTo sum up I think both Lohman and Larwood two of the all time greats
That should be good, I have one by Ric Sissons which was very interesting if very short (50 pages)As do I. I am very excited about the recent surfacing of a biography on him by Keith Booth.
Yes, a great bowler, the best bowler in the world for a few years, until he picked up TB. Also one of the greatest slippers everAgreed, but it would be wrong to propose that his greatness was based solely on the exaggerated Test figures that he obtained from his matches against the Springboks. Reading Ralph Barker's excellent piece on him, it is obvious that Lohmann had cause to be revered by the Aussies, too - and, indeed, he was.
I have read it a few times, maybe Bodyline Autopsy by Frith? My books are still in boxes, until I have book shelves builtI'd never heard that one before! Could you cite a source for it (without, of course, slashing open the packaging in which you are presently keeping all of your books)?
A great writer, glad he agrees with meBarker believes that they bowled him to his death.
Thanks mateIt's very hard to argue with someone as diplomatic and, well, so very right as you, Archie. Cheers, mate
Can't say that I've ever heard of that one.That should be good, I have one by Ric Sissons which was very interesting if very short (50 pages)
Hmm ... I didn't know that it was tuberculosis. When/where did he contract it?Yes, a great bowler, the best bowler in the world for a few years, until he picked up TB.
Having read a number of contemporary accounts which make reference to Lohmann's work as a slipper, I can't help but notice that his position was usually referred to as "short-slip". Would this mean that he stood closer to the bat than most slip fielders do/did - sort of like Botham?Also one of the greatest slippers ever
I read it again quite recently, so I don't think so.I have read it a few times, maybe Bodyline Autopsy by Frith?
Excuse the informal modern vernacular, but that must really suck, dude.My books are still in boxes, until I have book shelves built
Cheers.A great writer, glad he agrees with me
Thanks mate
It was a ltd edition, I will be interested to read the Booth offering as Sissons did not seem to have a lot of new information about the great manCan't say that I've ever heard of that one.
In Sth Afr I think?Hmm ... I didn't know that it was tuberculosis. When/where did he contract it?
I think that might just be contemproarie talk, I have a book with all of that stuff in itHaving read a number of contemporary accounts which make reference to Lohmann's work as a slipper, I can't help but notice that his position was usually referred to as "short-slip". Would this mean that he stood closer to the bat than most slip fielders do/did - sort of like Botham?
It will come to meI read it again quite recently, so I don't think so.
Digressing, I might say that his collaborative effort on ''Cricket and Empire'' sounds like a superb effort, though.It was a ltd edition, I will be interested to read the Booth offering as Sissons did not seem to have a lot of new information about the great man
I know that he was sent to South Africa for rehabilitation, following a physical breakdown, and soon had a relapse - of what, though, I do not know.In Sth Afr I think?
Lucky you.I think that might just be contemproarie talk, I have a book with all of that stuff in it
Cheers.It will come to me
Read that one not too bad, his best is 'The Players'Digressing, I might say that his collaborative effort on ''Cricket and Empire'' sounds like a superb effort, though..
TB, I am pretty sure, from memory he picked it up on an early tour of SA, but yes he was sent there to recoverI know that he was sent to South Africa for rehabilitation, following a physical breakdown, and soon had a relapse - of what, though, I do not know..
Is that the one about the plight of the professional?Read that one not too bad, his best is 'The Players'
YepIs that the one about the plight of the professional?