England v South Africa (EXPECT A RUN-FEST) at the Magnificent Sharjah Cricket Stadium-- 11/6 (N) Saturday, Match #39, Group 1

[SillyCowCorner1]

England's streak ends here

 

[Howe_zat]

Why a run fest?

South Africa have a much better attack than batting order I would think.

England have a better batting lineup than bowling on paper, especially given the injuries, but that's not how their tournament has gone.

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

Livingstone needs to take a lot of wickets.

 

[Bahseph]

Should be a good game either way. Really been pleasantly surprised by the Proteas,no one saw them as favourites but they have fought in every game,even if they weren't always performing at an elite level. Still expect England to win because the SA batting just doesn't have enough fire power.

 

[andruid]

England lose 6 or seven wickets chasing 90

 

[wpdavid]

So what happens to these teams' NRR if England have an absolute shocker, are bowled out for less than 100 and SA chase with 8 overs to spare? In other words, how badly do England need to lose by in order for SA and Aus to overtake them?

 

[Heboric]

So what happens to these teams' NRR if England have an absolute shocker, are bowled out for less than 100 and SA chase with 8 overs to spare? In other words, how badly do England need to lose by in order for SA and Aus to overtake them?

Nah its over for my team, its not out of the question for SA to beat England, but not an absolute walloping

 

[Howe_zat]

So what happens to these teams' NRR if England have an absolute shocker, are bowled out for less than 100 and SA chase with 8 overs to spare? In other words, how badly do England need to lose by in order for SA and Aus to overtake them?

Even in that scenario England's NRR would only drop to about 1.8, which is above Australia's, and South Africa's would rise to about 1.18 which isn't quite enough to overtake the Aussies. So if they bowled England out for 100, they'd need to chase it down a bit quicker to get through. An even bigger win would be required to knock out England.

If SA bat first, in order to get over Australia's run rate, SA need to win by about 71 runs.

 

[wpdavid]

Nah its over for my team, its not out of the question for SA to beat England, but not an absolute walloping

Look I know I'm playing silly buggers here, but SA do have a very good attack and strange things can happen. I'm not saying it's likely, but I just wonder what would need to happen for England to be in trouble.

Anyway, Howe's provided some figures. Cheers mate.

 

[smash84]

Even in that scenario England's NRR would only drop to about 1.8, which is above Australia's, and South Africa's would rise to about 1.18 which isn't quite enough to overtake the Aussies. So if they bowled England out for 100, they'd need to chase it down a bit quicker to get through. An even bigger win would be required to knock out England.

If SA bat first, in order to get over Australia's run rate, SA need to win by about 71 runs.

Thanks for this, the NRR calculations always seem a bit confusing to me.

 

[Howe_zat]

Thanks for this, the NRR calculations always seem a bit confusing to me.

Yeah it's convoluted as **** tbh. The 71 runs is annoyingly still an estimate because it actually depends on the total number of runs and overs across all matches, so a game where SA win by 100 runs to 29 all out actually counts as a bigger win for their NRR than if they win by 200 runs to 129 all out.

 

[honestbharani]

In a way, Sharjah is very well suited for a 160 plays 80 kinda game. But its small boundaries and England's big hitters.... Tough luck but seems like another bitter ICC pill to swallow for RSA.

 

[mackembhoy]

So what happens to these teams' NRR if England have an absolute shocker, are bowled out for less than 100 and SA chase with 8 overs to spare? In other words, how badly do England need to lose by in order for SA and Aus to overtake them?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1456985021651111949

 

[Howe_zat]

Ali back to being England's (joint) top wicket taker in the tournament, not bad for a bloke who wasn't asked to bowl in one game

 

[smash84]

Dussen followed bad batting with good batting,

he went for a 6 after the initial 4, but then immediately realized his mistake and took the single. That's good cricket.

 

[loterry1994]

Not sure what South Africa is thinking here, it might not be the best pitch to bat on but they should be trying to bash it every over and try get 200. Being one down after 9 overs and going under 7s ain’t going to cut it.

 

[smash84]

seriously, if there was ever a time to show "intent" , it was this match in the world cup, needless to say SA look **** going at 7 rpo when they need to win big

 

[Pup Clarke]

VDD is the most underrated player in world cricket. Gun

 

[Howe_zat]

Probably the best partnership England have faced all tournament tbh

 

[Howe_zat]

seriously, if there was ever a time to show "intent" , it was this match in the world cup, needless to say SA look **** going at 7 rpo when they need to win big

And a couple of shots later, the run rate is 7.5, then 8.5 the next over. Funny that.

Good partnerships immediately fix the problem. To say nothing of the assumption that the batsmen could score more if only they opted to.