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England test tour of Pakistan December 2022

Howe_zat

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It's a bit annoying because it means they'll have to win by tea tomorrow to stop the chase, so they've not really saved themselves any time. And if they win they'll be praised for it, but it's still mistimed regardless of outcome I would think.

Kinda feel vindicated about disagreeing with comments of 'nailed on draw' at tea on day 2 though. Those people can do one.
 

BazBall21

State Vice-Captain
Well congratulations to Trundler, an extraordinary result incoming. England have scored 1000 runs in this Test ffs.
 

Shady Slim

Cricketer Of The Year
even putting the pitch aside, that england put on 657 at 6 an over to open the test and are in a position where not winning is on the cards is
it's wow
 

Darwin Award

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Gilbert Jessop safe again
The amount of times this year alone it's been in danger has been quite a few..

Brook not only missed out a massive chance but to also really smash it by some margin by almost the equivalent of 2 overs or so in deliveries and make the new record much more harder to break.

Then again,given the way Stokes bats with zero f....s these days he'll probably bump it down to about 58 balls or thereabouts by the time he's done playing test cricket.
 

Red_Ink_Squid

International Captain
It's a bit annoying because it means they'll have to win by tea tomorrow to stop the chase, so they've not really saved themselves any time. And if they win they'll be praised for it, but it's still mistimed regardless of outcome I would think.
Reminds me of the Shai Hope Headingley Test where Root declared so early it meant they had less time to bowl WI out because the target was chased with time to spare.

As Daemon points out though, they're only getting ~75 overs a day here, so Pakistan will have to bat at least somewhat aggressively (though nothing like England speed) to chase this.
 

Bijed

International Regular
Reminds me of the Shai Hope Headingley Test where Root declared so early it meant they had less time to bowl WI out because the target was chased with time to spare.

As Daemon points out though, they're only getting ~75 overs a day here, so Pakistan will have to bat at least somewhat aggressively (though nothing like England speed) to chase this.
Yeah, very reminiscent of Headingley actually - good shout. One of those times where I don't think there was much to be lost just by sending out the tail to have a swing and try to get a few more quick runs
 

Howe_zat

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Reminds me of the Shai Hope Headingley Test where Root declared so early it meant they had less time to bowl WI out because the target was chased with time to spare.

As Daemon points out though, they're only getting ~75 overs a day here, so Pakistan will have to bat at least somewhat aggressively (though nothing like England speed) to chase this.
It seems such a basic analysis to think 'how long would they need to chase this total' instead of 'how long do we want to bowl them out' because declaration only becomes relevant when you stop trying to defend runs and start being against the clock.

As it is they will be measuring the wickets against runs and not time for the entire rest of the test, so it's a bad declaration. This seems... really simple to understand? But it'll only be talked about as a bad call if they lose.

Anyway, hopefully it doesn't matter. It normally doesn't matter very much, like every other captaincy decision, compared to how well they play.
 

Darwin Award

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Well,a somewhat brave declaration but if Pakistan do in fact chase it down it'll take the final run aggregate to 1842 runs scored in the match.
 

wpdavid

Hall of Fame Member
Stokes taking the new ball instead of Anderson. OK ......

And both openers deciding to use the new ball to test out the middle of the wicket. I'm sorry, but this is probably a complete waste of the new cherry.
 

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